2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Funny the fan960 guys where acting like Tkachuk, 12th overall, 2nd, and a 3rd wouldn't even be close

Not saying the Flames will get him but those guys are out to lunch on the value of Eichel

They are out to lunch on every trade evaluation. They are anti-homers that think Flame players have no value.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They are out to lunch on every trade evaluation. They are anti-homers that think Flame players have no value.

This is right in line with most flames fans though.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They are out to lunch on every trade evaluation. They are anti-homers that think Flame players have no value.

Generally speaking, when high profile players are traded there's always a build up of what it will cost, and then when the deal breaks it's all of a sudden a great deal for the team acquiring said player because it's well below the absolute fantastical trades people have built up in their heads.

Remember the Dougie Hamilton trade? It HAD to include one of Bennett or Gaudreau +++. Then it breaks and it's instantly an "OMG WHAT A DEAL" (...although that was in fact a great deal).

The trades like the package Quebec got for Lindros just don't happen.

Look at what Seguin returned. Look at what Thornton returned.

Hell, look at Mark Stone - a player I'd say is on par with Eichel, and with an extension Stone returned a mid-round 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and a guy who played a total of 20 more NHL games after the trade. Sure, Eichel will return more because of age - but we aren't talking about a Lindros trade here.

[1qqaaz]

The guys at Fan 960 seem to be overly skeptical toward the prospect of any major moves.

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes obviously, which shouldn't be a problem.

It is just better asset management to include Hanifin than Valimaki, if you are including a Dman.

Also for Salary balancing too

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The guys at Fan 960 seem to be overly skeptical toward the prospect of any major moves.

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

When the emotions die down, and you look at the coaching staff changes...I don't think it's absolutely crazy to think the team will come back pretty similar next year, with perhaps some more money spent in free agency (Hall, Saad, defenceman to replace Giordano if taken by Seattle).

Remember, all you have to do is eek your way in.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I’m increasingly against trading Hanifin this off season because if he takes one more step forward he’s going to be worth a boat load on his own with that contract.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The guys at Fan 960 seem to be overly skeptical toward the prospect of any major moves.

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

I think it's because none of them really know what's going on inside Flames headquarters at the present time. The Flames don't have a local insider.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think it's because none of them really know what's going on inside Flames headquarters at the present time. The Flames don't have a local insider.

Yeah, Boomer is okay for finding things out immediately before they happen, or about things just as they fall apart (Zucker) - but no actual rumours or rumblings.

Steinberg seemed to have some information on the Flames being aggressive on Markstrom well before free agency began - which is about the most "insider" thing we've heard surrounding the team other than when Friedman/Lebrun had the Flames in on Hall before he went to Arizona, and when Warrener dropped a Sutter hint a few days before that happened (Warrener has since claimed it was not inside information, but just speculation...)

Our lack of insiders is likely related to what Conroy mentioned on that podcast from a few weeks ago where he mentioned that from a trade perspective, that's all Tree and no one else is really involved in those talks.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, Boomer is okay for finding things out immediately before they happen, or about things just as they fall apart (Zucker) - but no actual rumours or rumblings.

Steinberg seemed to have some information on the Flames being aggressive on Markstrom well before free agency began - which is about the most "insider" thing we've heard surrounding the team other than when Friedman/Lebrun had the Flames in on Hall before he went to Arizona, and when Warrener dropped a Sutter hint a few days before that happened (Warrener has since claimed it was not inside information, but just speculation...)

Our lack of insiders is likely related to what Conroy mentioned on that podcast from a few weeks ago where he mentioned that from a trade perspective, that's all Tree and no one else is really involved in those talks.

Steinberg was also pretty adamant on Mike Smith before he was acquired. It seems like he might have had some inside info there.

Now he's consistently claiming that Gaudreau is likely to re-sign. He mentions this on nearly every overtime show.
I think there's definitely something there.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Steinberg was also pretty adamant on Mike Smith before he was acquired. It seems like he might have had some inside info there.

Now he's consistently claiming that Gaudreau is likely to re-sign. He mentions this on nearly every overtime show.
I think there's definitely something there.

I haven't been listening very much lately, but this makes me very happy. When we pluck a superstar in the 4th round, and he loves it in Calgary and wants to spend his whole career here - you make it happen.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Steinberg was also pretty adamant on Mike Smith before he was acquired. It seems like he might have had some inside info there.

Now he's consistently claiming that Gaudreau is likely to re-sign. He mentions this on nearly every overtime show.
I think there's definitely something there.

6x9 sign me up .

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

Yup, literally no Flames player has any value at all.

[getoverit]

Too much. He’s not a $9m player

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

6x9 sign me up .

[flambers]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The guys at Fan 960 seem to be overly skeptical toward the prospect of any major moves.

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

Not sure about major, however listening to Treliving press conference at the end of the year He said, changes are required

I can not imagine any way they go with the same core.

At best, they are a team if they have a good season they should make the playoffs but they are not contenders in my view.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Too much. He’s not a $9m player

I would hope the Flames don't offer any thing close to that number.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Hell, look at Mark Stone - a player I'd say is on par with Eichel, and with an extension Stone returned a mid-round 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and a guy who played a total of 20 more NHL games after the trade.

Ottawa did not get full value of a signed Stone, because he would only sign with Vegas. From Ottawa's perspective, they were trading a UFA to be.

[868904]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The guys at Fan 960 seem to be overly skeptical toward the prospect of any major moves.

Is it because they think no one has any value, or is it because they think Treliving has faith in the core?

You just know that when training camp hits and the core is still in tact, the question will be asked why, and Tre will point to the Habs making the finals as an indication of how close the Flames are and whole sale changes were not required, only minor tweaks and a whole year under Darryl and the continued progression of the young players.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Too much. He’s not a $9m player

No, clearly he meant 6 mill 9 years

[chedder]

Originally Posted by 868904

You just know that when training camp hits and the core is still in tact, the question will be asked why, and Tre will point to the Habs making the finals as an indication of how close the Flames are and whole sale changes were not required, only minor tweaks and a whole year under Darryl and the continued progression of the young players.

Ugh. This is my biggest fear and why I want Treliving fired.