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Old 08-21-2023, 08:20 PM   #1
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Standard fantasy categories: goals, assists, plus/minus, power-play points, shots on goal and hits for skaters; wins, goals-against average, save percentage and shutouts for goalies.

Value has been quantified based on factors including but not limited to past production in the regular season and Stanley Cup Playoffs, line combinations, defense pairs, power-play usage, team goalie situations, anticipated start volume, projected goal support (or lack thereof), injury history or concern, age, contract status (potential 2023 unrestricted free agents are noted: *) and overall upside for the 2023-24 season.
Top 10 Overall
1. Connor McDavid, C, EDM
2. Leon Draisaitl, C/LW, EDM
3. Nathan MacKinnon, C, COL
4. David Pastrnak, RW, BOS
5. Matthew Tkachuk, RW, FLA (INJ.)
6. Nikita Kucherov, RW, TBL
7. Jason Robertson, LW, DAL
8. Mikko Rantanen, C/RW, COL
9. Jack Hughes, C/LW, NJD
10. Auston Matthews, C, TOR

Top 10 C/?
1. (1.) Connor McDavid, C, EDM
2. (2.) Leon Draisaitl, C/LW, EDM
3. (3.) Nathan MacKinnon, C, COL
4. (8.) Mikko Rantanen, C/RW, COL
5. (9.) Jack Hughes, C/LW, NJD
6. (10.) Auston Matthews, C, TOR
7. (12.) Tage Thompson, C/RW, BUF
8. (14.) Sidney Crosby, C, PIT
9. (20.) Elias Pettersson, C/LW, VAN
10. (23.) Brayden Point, C, TBL

Top 10 ?/LW/?
1. (7.) Jason Robertson, LW, DAL
2. (11.) Kirill Kaprizov, LW, MIN
3. (13.) Brady Tkachuk, LW, OTT
4. (15.) Alex Ovechkin, LW, WSH
5. (28.) Artemi Panarin, LW, NYR
6. (29.) William Nylander, LW/RW, TOR
7. (30.) Steven Stamkos, C/LW, TBL
8. (32.) Tim Stützle, C/LW, OTT
9. (34.) Brad Marchand, LW, BOS
10. (35.) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C/LW, EDM

Top 10 ?/RW
1. (4.) David Pastrnak, RW, BOS
2. (5.) Matthew Tkachuk, RW, FLA (INJ.)
3. (6.) Nikita Kucherov, RW, TBL
4. (17.) Mitchell Marner, RW, TOR
5. (44.) Zach Hyman, LW/RW, EDM
6. (45.) Matt Boldy, LW/RW, MIN
7. (48.) Clayton Keller, LW/RW, ARI
8. (53.) Mark Stone, RW, VGK
9. (54.) Alex Tuch, RW, BUF
10. (57.) Joe Pavelski, C/RW, DAL

Top 20 D
1. (16.) Cale Makar, D, COL
2. (21.) Adam Fox, D, NYR
3. (31.) Rasmus Dahlin, D, BUF
4. (33.) Erik Karlsson, D, PIT
5. (36.) Roman Josi, D, NSH (INJ.)
6. (40.) Dougie Hamilton, D, NJD
7. (47.) Charlie McAvoy, D, BOS
8. (51.) Josh Morrissey, D, WPG (INJ.)
9. (55.) Quinn Hughes, D, VAN
10. (56.) Brandon Montour, D, FLA (INJ.)
11. (60.) Miro Heiskanen, D, DAL
12. (61.) Victor Hedman, D, TBL
13. (63.) Evan Bouchard, D, EDM
14. (65.) Brent Burns, D, CAR
15. (66.) Moritz Seider, D, DET
16. (78.) John Carlson, D, WSH
17. (84.) Vince Dunn, D, SEA
18. (88.) Mikhail Sergachev, D, TBL
19. (89.) Hampus Lindholm, D, BOS (INJ.)
20. (104.) Seth Jones, D, CHI

Top 10 G
1. (18.) Igor Shesterkin, G, NYR
2. (19.) Ilya Sorokin, G, NYI
3. (22.) Andrei Vasilevskiy, G, TBL
4. (24.) Jake Oettinger, G, DAL
5. (37.) Alexandar Georgiev, G, COL
6. (39.) Linus Ullmark, G, BOS (INJ.)
7. (73.) Connor Hellebuyck, G, WPG
8. (82.) Jeremy Swayman, G, BOS
9. (87.) Filip Gustavsson, G, MIN
10. (91.) Juuse Saros, G, NSH

Top Flames
1. (124.) Jonathan Huberdeau, LW/RW, CGY
2. (140.) Nazem Kadri, C, CGY
3. (141.) Elias Lindholm, C, CGY
4. (160.) Rasmus Andersson, D, CGY
5. (199.) Jacob Markstrom, G, CGY
6. (200.) MacKenzie Weegar, D, CGY
7. (206.) Mikael Backlund, C, CGY

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Old 08-21-2023, 09:28 PM   #2
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So on average each team has 3-4 players better than CGY's best player from a fantasy perspective. I hope Huska hangs that list in the dressing room and pushes the underdog mentality.
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Old 08-21-2023, 09:34 PM   #3
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It’s amazing how so called experts can weight 1 season so heavily. Huberdeau at 124 is an absolute joke
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Old 08-21-2023, 09:41 PM   #4
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It’s amazing how so called experts can weight 1 season so heavily. Huberdeau at 124 is an absolute joke
just use it to take peoples money, guy is going to be a steal in a lot of drafts
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Old 08-21-2023, 10:18 PM   #5
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Huberdeau has more talent in his little finger than Nuge has in his whole body.

Lindholm also embarrassingly far down the list.

Every time the Flames have a down year suddenly their top players become criminally underrated and my eyes roll hard seeing it.

Tkachuk may actually be slightly overrated here too. Same with his brother.
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Old 08-21-2023, 10:50 PM   #6
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So on average each team has 3-4 players better than CGY's best player from a fantasy perspective. I hope Huska hangs that list in the dressing room and pushes the underdog mentality.
It seems a little harsh, but I could buy that most teams on average have 2 players better than any players on the Flames, just among forwards. Probably half the teams in the league have at least 1 defenseman better than any of the Flames defensemen.

We lost our 2 best forwards a year ago and the new forwards brought in didn't exactly prove that they are better. We can speculate that they can be better on the Flames, but they haven't proven anything at this point.

It's worth noting on this list, Seattle players are also quite low yet they were one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL last season and made the 2nd round of the playoffs. Teams can be successful without having top fantasy players.
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Bouchard at 13 made me laugh. But I guess he scores on McPP
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Defence and goalies are being insanely underrated in the “overall” list.

Like, no, Brady Tkachuk is not better than Cale Makar and no, Hyman is not better than McAvoy, as two (of very many) examples.
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Defence and goalies are being insanely underrated in the “overall” list.

Like, no, Brady Tkachuk is not better than Cale Makar and no, Hyman is not better than McAvoy, as two (of very many) examples.
It's a fantasy list. Brady gets points, shots, hits and he'll have more goals than Makar.
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It's a fantasy list. Brady gets points, shots, hits and he'll have more goals than Makar.
Brady is probably the 3rd best fantasy player in my league due to the settings. An absolute multi-cat beast.
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Speaking of Brady, I read a stat yesterday that said while Matthew lead his team by a wide margin in rebounds generated, he also lead the NHL with his brother Brady close behind in second place.

Talk about some proper parenting right there.

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Tkachuk loved to both create and capitalize on secondary chances.

In addition to scoring a ton of goals right around the net, he also generated 50 rebounds, according to MoneyPuck.com, which were 24 more than the next-best player on the team.

Of his 322 shots on goal, 11.7% led to a rebound.

Taking a look around the NHL, Tkachuk, who also led the league with 13.5 expected goals on shots taking from rebounds, was one of just four players to generate at least 40 rebounds this past season, with the others being Brady Tkachuk (47), Bryan Rust (41) and John Tavares (40).

At this point, it's safe to argue that there's no one better around the net than No. 19.

https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/20...uk/c-345612482
Edit: Updated to include the snippet and fix some accuracy issues in my original summary. (I originally stated it was the NHL he lead by a wide margin, which is incorrect.)

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It’s amazing how so called experts can weight 1 season so heavily. Huberdeau at 124 is an absolute joke
Not being facetious at all, and I don't actually know if this is true or not, but I imagine that "last season" is a better indicator (predictor?) of next season than "two or three seasons ago" is. Granted, there are anomalies... injuries, coaching catastrophes, etc.

If I was a data scientist and felt so inclined, I would use that as a hypothesis and see if I could prove it wrong. Although, come to think of it, if I was a data scientist, I would probably already know the outcome. (OK, now I'm being a little bit facetious.)
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It’s amazing how so called experts can weight 1 season so heavily. Huberdeau at 124 is an absolute joke
Well it's not like anyone can be realistically confident that he's a top flight producer in the league after that disaster last season. He had 15 goals last year and is in his 30s. Until he steps on the ice and proves otherwise, he's as fantasy irrelevant than just about anyone in the league.

On the other side, is anyone confident RNH is a top ten fantasy winger? The guy is a bum and would struggle to pot 50 points on any other team. When he feasts with McDavid he's a fantasy star.
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Well it's not like anyone can be realistically confident that he's a top flight producer in the league after that disaster last season. He had 15 goals last year and is in his 30s.

Until he steps on the ice and proves otherwise, he's as fantasy irrelevant than just about anyone in the league.
You must play in extraordinarily shallow fantasy leagues.

Even guys like Mangiapane and Dube will be drafted in mine...
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You must play in extraordinarily shallow fantasy leagues.

Even guys like Mangiapane and Dube will be drafted in mine...
Huberdeau will certainly get drafted in most leagues, but if you're taking him high or expecting him to be anything close to what he was in Florida, it's going to be a rough season.

If I was touching him in a draft, it would be late round with the hope he flirts with a PPG as a ceiling at this point so for me, that's not a whole lot off where he's being pegged.

I hope he goes off and has a middle finger type season, but I just don't see it given the way the Flames are built and the way you have to play in the West.
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For fantasy, I would take Huberdeau, Andersson and maybe Lindholm if he felt far enough

Lindholm was always drafted pretty high in previous years
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Gaudreau also at 121.
A year prior, him and Huberdeau are #1/2 on the LW list and now they're not top 100 players in the league??
I don't know about that.
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Forget LW they were 2/3 in scoring
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Guess it’s what have you done for me lately
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I know this thread is about fantasy rankings, but putting all that aside for a minute...

Imagine there's a redraft of the entire NHL for some reason. Like a real draft, so you're actually building teams, not just drafting for individual points.

How does this guy not go first overall? I know, McDavid... but seriously, if you're building to win Cups... You essentially get a McDavid in the o-zone plus actual defensive capabilities on your side of the puck.


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