Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-15-2021, 08:22 PM   #1
MrMike
Franchise Player
 
MrMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
Exp:
Default Daily Faceoff 2021-22 Strength of Schedule

Spoiler!


Ottawa with the toughest schedule this year.

And look who is number one?
MrMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 08:26 PM   #2
CorsiHockeyLeague
Franchise Player
 
CorsiHockeyLeague's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Exp:
Default

You wonder how they weighted the travel thing because the first 7 teams are in the West and that seems very odd.
__________________
"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
CorsiHockeyLeague is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 08:33 PM   #3
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

This seems a little suspect to say the least
__________________
GFG
dino7c is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
Old 10-15-2021, 08:39 PM   #4
Roof-Daddy
Franchise Player
 
Roof-Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Obviously they rate the Pacific division as weak, because they take 6 out of the top 11 easiest schedules, and 7 out of 16.
Roof-Daddy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Roof-Daddy For This Useful Post:
Old 10-15-2021, 08:49 PM   #5
FanIn80
GOAT!
 
FanIn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Exp:
Default

Well, if this is true then I welcome it. Lord knows we could sure use a break from somewhere.
FanIn80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 08:54 PM   #6
MrMike
Franchise Player
 
MrMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy View Post
Obviously they rate the Pacific division as weak, because they take 6 out of the top 11 easiest schedules, and 7 out of 16.
Yeah they must take quality of competition into consideration that would make sense with these ratings.
MrMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 08:58 PM   #7
Cecil Terwilliger
That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
 
Cecil Terwilliger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
Exp:
Default

I don’t think these guys know how rankings work if Calgary is #1 in SOS but their tweet claims Ottawa has the toughest schedule.

I’m assuming that’s a typo and they meant easiest schedule.
Cecil Terwilliger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 09:09 PM   #8
Icantwhisper
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c View Post
This seems a little suspect to say the least
This certainly doesn’t fit your narrative
__________________
I have Strong opinions about things I know very little about.
Icantwhisper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 10:41 PM   #9
FanIn80
GOAT!
 
FanIn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger View Post
I don’t think these guys know how rankings work if Calgary is #1 in SOS but their tweet claims Ottawa has the toughest schedule.

I’m assuming that’s a typo and they meant easiest schedule.
Yeah now that I think about it some more, if the top three hardest schedules are OTT, NYR, DET and the top three easiest are CGY, VGK, COL... I'll eat one of Kendall Jenner's pubes.

Spoiler!
FanIn80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 10:55 PM   #10
zukes
Nostradamus
 
zukes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
Exp:
Default

I'm guessing that's backwards, though I think Ottawa has the worst schedule for playing as rested aginast a tired opponent and vise versa, so maybe not.
__________________
agggghhhhhh!!!
zukes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 11:04 PM   #11
timbit
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Exp:
Default

Are Flames fans so beaten down that they actually believe that ....

No No.... We have the worst schedule. It’s upside down.
timbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 11:12 PM   #12
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper View Post
This certainly doesn’t fit your narrative
Flames have a easier schedule than teams that barely leave their time zone

Okay guy

If it's based on strength of opponent why are the Oilers 10 considering more **NINJA EDIT** the Oilers play more tired teams while rested

Also, too early to tell which are the tough teams

Last team to play a game is a benefit?
__________________
GFG

Last edited by dino7c; 10-15-2021 at 11:55 PM.
dino7c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 11:40 PM   #13
Vansmack
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c View Post
Flames have a easier schedule than teams that barely leave their time zone

Okay guy

If it's based on strength of opponent why are the Oilers 10 considering more often than not teams play the Flames first and Edmonton the next night

Also, too early to tell which are the tough teams

Last team to play a game is a benefit?
Although I feel this was often true in previous years, flames have a 7-3 edge this year in that regard this season.

Edmonton plays the ducks Oct 19th, predators Nov 3rd, Capitals Mar 9th, after those teams played in Calgary the night before.

Flames play rangers Nov 6th, Ducks Dec 21, Vegas Jan 15th, Sabres Mar 18th, kings Mar 31st, blues Apr 2nd, Stars Apr 21st, after those teams played in Edmonton the night before.

All this said, the No Goods have the fewest back to back games this season, 8 times in total. Flames have 14 which is middle of the pack, islanders have 19 which is kind of crazy.

Last edited by Vansmack; 10-15-2021 at 11:49 PM.
Vansmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 11:49 PM   #14
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Edmonton has 15 games where they are rested and the other team played the night before.

Calgary has 13 which seems good but Calgary has 12 the other way where they are the tired team.

Like every season I can remember Edmonton has the better rested/tired schedule
__________________
GFG
dino7c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 12:00 AM   #15
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

As I thought this isn't what is seems...this is a fantasy hockey skater strength of schedule

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/2022-fa...h-of-schedule/

Rankings are for fantasy points of skaters

" Based on the defensive rating, their division has six of the bottom-11 teams in the NHL. And that doesn’t even account for the Seattle Kraken, who may struggle in their first season. I gave them an average grade both offensively and defensively so the results would not be skewed, one way or the other. With their main competition all grading out in the bottom-third of the NHL, Calgary and Vegas sit firmly at the top of the table."


Its 100% based on the Flames being in the pacific and it supposedly being easier to put up points (not even about winning)

Rest, travel, ect. not factored
__________________
GFG

Last edited by dino7c; 10-16-2021 at 12:47 AM.
dino7c is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
Old 10-16-2021, 12:01 AM   #16
united
First Line Centre
 
united's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Exp:
Default

Rest equity only, via HockeyViz.

Ottawa is at the bottom here, too...but then there is Seattle (7), Montreal (21), and Chicago (26) that are complete opposite.

__________________
"I think the eye test is still good, but analytics can sure give you confirmation: what you see...is that what you really believe?"
Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played
united is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 01:17 AM   #17
Snuffleupagus
Franchise Player
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by united View Post
Rest equity only, via HockeyViz.

Ottawa is at the bottom here, too...but then there is Seattle (7), Montreal (21), and Chicago (26) that are complete opposite.

Once again Edmonton near the top with a +6

Every single year they are at or near the top, at least Calgary is a +1 this year

This was brought up a few years ago at a function and a dummy oiler fan piped up and said "you guys realize most international flights come thru Calgary right?, that's why they play teams after playing Calgary" I didn't wait for anyone to respond and said: you realize NHL teams fly charter right? do you know what a charter flight means?

He went quiet

Last edited by Snuffleupagus; 10-16-2021 at 01:21 AM.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 08:59 AM   #18
Bingo
Owner
 
Bingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I'm not one to believe there's any kind of conspiracy.

I'd blame it on air schedules, but teams have their own planes (charters).

Could have something to do with airport departure closing times too.
Bingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 09:58 AM   #19
heep223
Could Care Less
 
heep223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Exp:
Default

I feel like it has more to do with keeping flights shorter for teams coming through Alberta.
heep223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 10:10 AM   #20
Blaster86
UnModerator
 
Blaster86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
Exp:
Default

Canucks likely being weighted due to this 6 game road trip to start. What an absolutely awful way to start a season. Just hitting every team's home opener along the way and you don't see yours until almost November.
__________________

THANK MR DEMKO
CPHL Ottawa Vancouver
Blaster86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:44 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021