06-19-2018, 12:23 PM
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#181
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I wonder what the ask would be for Panarin? What would it cost to re-sign him?
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06-19-2018, 12:23 PM
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#182
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#1 Goaltender
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Yeah Brodie alone won't get you Stone. Not sure adding Bennett gets you there. Might need a second/third round pick or a prospect to make it equitable. Stone is a pure goal scorer and exactly what the Flames are missing.
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06-19-2018, 12:26 PM
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#183
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by red sky
Yeah Brodie alone won't get you Stone. Not sure adding Bennett gets you there. Might need a second/third round pick or a prospect to make it equitable. Stone is a pure goal scorer and exactly what the Flames are missing.
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Why do people think Bennett is a throw in piece in a trade that already includes Brodie? Bennett is 20 years old with tons of upside. Sell low on him and watch it bite Flames in the ass.
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06-19-2018, 12:27 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Wasn't this a guy the Flames were interested in at one point?
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06-19-2018, 12:28 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
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Panarin is the first name out there that I've really been interested in. It would be like adding a second Gaudreau.
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06-19-2018, 12:29 PM
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#186
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Why do people think Bennett is a throw in piece in a trade that already includes Brodie? Bennett is 20 years old with tons of upside. Sell low on him and watch it bite Flames in the ass.
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Undervaluing due to being disappointed fans.
Look at the return Domi just pulled in.
Don’t worry, Treliving knows better.
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06-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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#187
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
Wasn't this a guy the Flames were interested in at one point?
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Yep. They tried wooing him before he chose Chicago.
And in all seriousness, if the Flames are contemplating moving Hamilton, Panarin is a guy you move Hamilton for.
RHS, 25-30 goals a year, close to 80pts a year.
Don't want to move Hamilton, but if they feel the need this makes sense to me.
Last edited by Toonage; 06-19-2018 at 12:35 PM.
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06-19-2018, 12:32 PM
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#188
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Who says he will be or needs to be a better scorer though?
Maybe a significant part of his value is the belief in his ability to take a regular shift. A player who brings half the offense tkachuk does but bring elements of the rest of his game is still a valuable player, if you get the offense as well, great. If you don't, you have some assurance that his mix of size and speed will make him an effective player even if he isn't a top line scorer.
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I was responding to this:
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I have heard that Brady may have more skill upside than Matthew and that the 1st round drops off after about the 7th pick. But the depth in general after in the rest of the 1st and 2nd round is decent. Lots of hair splitting at that point.
Just second hand hearsay though.
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I can definitely see why he is ranked where he is.
Guys receive a boost in their perceived scouting because of family relations in the league, but guys don't get top 5 pick billing unless they are at least comparable to their peers in that group.
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Well, I am not sure about that. Jordan Staal was definitely over-rated on the basis of his name, and I remain a little sceptical that Sam Reinhart would have been drafted #2 had his last name been "Danubkidny."
But beyond that, I am not sure what your point is. Everyone agrees that Brady Tkachuk is a great player—the dispute here is how he compares to his older brother: I maintain that he is likely not as good.
Last edited by Textcritic; 06-19-2018 at 12:38 PM.
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06-19-2018, 12:32 PM
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#189
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Why do people think Bennett is a throw in piece in a trade that already includes Brodie? Bennett is 20 years old with tons of upside. Sell low on him and watch it bite Flames in the ass.
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He isn't a throw in. It is based on Brodie's play the last few years and the fact that Stone was PPG player last year, is 6'4" and hasn't peaked.
If we were talking about Brodie two years ago I think Brodie + a pick would be sufficient but there is two much uncertainty whether he returns to his previous form.
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06-19-2018, 12:34 PM
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#190
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Panarin is the first name out there that I've really been interested in. It would be like adding a second Gaudreau.
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I thought he was close to signing with the Flames before the Hawks grabbed him.
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06-19-2018, 12:34 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
I wonder what the ask would be for Panarin? What would it cost to re-sign him?
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I think the top concern would be what are his plans after the contract is up. Is going back to Russia a real possibility?
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06-19-2018, 12:35 PM
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#192
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'd move almost anyone on the Flames roster for Panarin. Dan that'd be a catch.
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06-19-2018, 12:37 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I'd move almost anyone on the Flames roster for Panarin. Dan that'd be a catch.
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He is entering unrestricted free agency in a year. I most certainly would not trade away "almost anyone."
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06-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
He is entering unrestricted free agency in a year. I most certainly would not trade away "almost anyone."
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Cool. I would. Then re-sign him.
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06-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
He is entering unrestricted free agency in a year. I most certainly would not trade away "almost anyone."
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Yes you'd want to extend him immediately and would try to get that framework in before the deal.
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06-19-2018, 12:41 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
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Hard to say what they would be looking for in return for Panarin, but this is the first name (in my mind) that would actually put Hamilton in play. Up til now it's all been noise. Panarin is as talented as Stone and is a RH RW.
I'm guessing they would want a hockey trade in return.
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06-19-2018, 12:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Brodie + Bennett + Anderson/Kylington for Panarin.
Works in NHL 18. Make it happen Tre.
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06-19-2018, 12:43 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Yes you'd want to extend him immediately and would try to get that framework in before the deal.
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Well if he is unwilling to discuss an extension with the BJs right now, what makes him more likely to discuss an extension with another team?
Unless he just wants out of Columbus badly.
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06-19-2018, 12:45 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
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Panarin is definitely a guy i would be thrilled to add...
it sounds like he's going to test free agency anyways?
edit: wrong year
iirc calgary was in panarin's final 3 before signing with Chicago
Last edited by oldschoolcalgary; 06-19-2018 at 12:49 PM.
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06-19-2018, 12:46 PM
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#200
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Well if he is unwilling to discuss an extension with the BJs right now, what makes him more likely to discuss an extension with another team?
Unless he just wants out of Columbus badly.
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Thats kind of it. We don't know. Is he unhappy there? Would he be happier elsewhere? Does he hate Torts?
My apologies for speculating in the trade speculation thread. 
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