10-28-2019, 07:11 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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He's a winger whose game is impacted negatively by being forced to play a more complex position even though we have guys like Bennett and Ryan and Backlund who can all handle those duties well.
Bizarre handling by this team.
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10-28-2019, 07:15 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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A disappointment.
To have defended the kid and the pick for five years only to have his development stall a year into his 2nd contract is just the absolute worst ending.
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10-28-2019, 07:18 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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He's going to be out of the league by 2021 is my guess.
The guy glides all over the ice, zero intensity, zero motor.
His one saving grace was his pk ability, but his inability to stop obvious cross seam passes makes him a liability.
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10-28-2019, 07:19 PM
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#124
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Seems like a good person who likes hockey. Just has no interest in being a better athlete than his peers.
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10-28-2019, 07:23 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He's a winger whose game is impacted negatively by being forced to play a more complex position even though we have guys like Bennett and Ryan and Backlund who can all handle those duties well.
Bizarre handling by this team.
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What a bizarre post. Bennett can't play center worth a spit. He's barely a winger for the top nine. Complexity is not a word you associate with Sam Bennett or his game. He's another player the Flames could move and improve upon for probably less money.
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10-28-2019, 07:24 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Joe Colborne.
And not in the meme way where he's "a more ____ Joe Colborne."
He's just Colborne.
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10-28-2019, 07:29 PM
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#127
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary
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He's been horrible. Looks so lost, and refuses to put two hands on his stick.
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10-28-2019, 07:34 PM
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#128
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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When you look at his career progression stats wise I believe it’s waaaay too early to be dangling him as trade bait, I don’t believe anyone who says he’s currently plateaued at his ceiling.
The concept of mistake free defence winning hockey games is a lot of coaches mantra, and while most NHL’ers are there because they stood out offensively amongst their peers growing up, I think Jankowski is wired similarly to a coach thinking defense wins games. I think the ‘eye of the tiger’ offensive impulses need to be encouraged with Jankowski while most coaches are normally pulling on the reins of most players.
If his numbers grow it will likely not be at the expense of his defensive responsibility and could reach #2 center status, but if his points stay where they are he’s a versatile 3/4 bordering on replacement level.
The Dude abides.
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10-28-2019, 08:16 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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He’s hit a plateau — what got him to this point is not good enough to keep him in the lineup right now. He has size, decent speed, and some offensive finish, but is not getting himself to where he needs to be on either end of the ice. His PK scoring masked some of his 5-on-5 shortcomings last year, but his line was clearly surpassed by Ryan’s line last year and he’s done nothing to change that this year.
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10-28-2019, 11:20 PM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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He's a plug.
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10-29-2019, 12:00 AM
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#131
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#1 Goaltender
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Has definitely regressed from last season. Very sad to watch. Such a promising rookie year.
I think he's close to done. He's 25 now. He'll be out of the league by 27/28/29 if he doesn't take some serious strides. He probably has close to 0 trade value at this point.
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10-29-2019, 03:49 AM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Hes a draft pick that should have been traded or used on someone better.
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10-29-2019, 07:29 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
Hes a draft pick that should have been traded or used on someone better.
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Traded maybe. But the funny thing about 2012 is that there’s no one picked after him who’s really a standout. Maata has kind of fallen off the map. Schmaltz maybe but it’s not a face palm that he wasn’t picked.
Now, if there was a deal to move up even a couple spots and get Hertl, Teravainen or Vasilevsky...
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10-29-2019, 07:41 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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The Flames traded down that year with Buffalo from 14th to 21st and 42nd overall that they used on Sieloff... literally could have taken one of Teravainen, Wilson, Hertl or Vasilevskiy.
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10-29-2019, 08:13 AM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
A disappointment.
To have defended the kid and the pick for five years only to have his development stall a year into his 2nd contract is just the absolute worst ending.
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2012 - that would be 7 years.
It is just that he apparently stopped getting better. Maybe his getting traded to Toronto hurt his psyche and destroyed his motivation.
It is like his mind is stuck in the body of the the 6-3 160 lb kid the Flames drafted.
His desire to play a non-contact game is not a good fit on a team that already has a bunch of talented players that would rather play in a no-contact league.
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10-29-2019, 08:20 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Joe Colborne.
And not in the meme way where he's "a more ____ Joe Colborne."
He's just Colborne.
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A more bad Joe Colborne
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10-29-2019, 08:22 AM
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#138
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
The Flames traded down that year with Buffalo from 14th to 21st and 42nd overall that they used on Sieloff... literally could have taken one of Teravainen, Wilson, Hertl or Vasilevskiy.
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There should be a public stoning of Feaster at the Calgary Tower
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10-29-2019, 08:24 AM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
The Flames traded down that year with Buffalo from 14th to 21st and 42nd overall that they used on Sieloff... literally could have taken one of Teravainen, Wilson, Hertl or Vasilevskiy.
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Had Burke been in charge a few months earlier the default truculence pick in the draft was Wilson who went at 16. Burke might have traded up from 14 to pick Wilson.
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10-29-2019, 08:30 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Janko is weird to me. Skill set is there IMO but the compete level and give a #### meter is what is missing a lot of the time to me.
Visually I thought he's looked bad for the most part, but his line has also had some spurts where they can control the play in the offensive zone (Him, Quine, Czarnik had one really good game in particular).
Advanced stats actually like him so far this year in his very limited/sheltered role.
CF%: 56.8%
GF: 0
GA: 7
xGF%: 57.8%
XGF: 3.3
xGA: 2.4
Shooting %: 0
Save Percentage: .833 (Lowest on-ice save percentage on the team)
Personally I think trading him now would be a mistake since it would be in the middle of a horrible shooting percentage rate. Also I wouldn't mind the Flames trying him on the wing with Lindholm playing center now. He did play there in college at times, and really his big frame and body may work better along the boards.
Personally I think the NHL has shifted a bit where you no longer need to be a huge center ice man, but you need to be able to skate. And really now size may be better suited to the boards.
If they stick with the same line framework from last game.
Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Bennett - Monahan - Mangiapane
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Lucic - Ryan - Rieder
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You don't watch the playoffs at all?
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