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Old 08-25-2011, 05:35 AM   #1
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So I've been on a biblical history kick the last few months and swore that this year I would stop my queue on my 12 science books waiting to be read and switch it up to historical books.

Anyhow, since documentaries are my addiction I got going with re-watching the PBS Nova "Bible's buried secrets" 2hr doc, which is really fascinating, and while I was searching for it to download I run into a series which is newer and from the BBC; also with the same name. The bonus, a HOT biblical scholar who leads us through her 3 episodes:

"Did King David's empire exist?"
"Did God have a wife"
"Where was the real Garden of Eden"

There's so much interesting stuff in there that I contacted TC to get some book recommendations, which he thankfully got me 3 promising books to get me more depth of this period.

If you guys have any good books or documentaries on biblical history please share, I have also seen "A History of God:"


Here's the babe in the BBC series Bible's Buried Secrets, 3 episodes.

Did King David's empire exist?







Did God have a wife?






The Real Garden of Eden




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I find documentaries on these subjects too thin in content and skimming in detail to be of much information, beyond piquing an interest in the topic. What were the books Textcritic recommended?
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A good book on the subject is The Evolution of God
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"GOD" is a name made by man when the earth was flat and the universe revolved around it.

God is imaginary...that is gospel.
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Bah I need to organize myself, I'm just gonna list the documentaries/books/lectures I have/or want.

Video
BBC A history of Christianity (6 1hr episodes) - Watched
BBC Bible's Buried Secrets (3 1hr episodes) - Watched
A History of God (2 hrs) - Watched
History Channel - Kane and Abel a murder mystery
History Channel - Banned from the Bible II - Downloading (where is 1?)
Ch4 UK - The Bible: A history (link) - (7 1hr episodes) Can't find to dl

Audio
TTC - History of the Bible: The Making of the New Testament Canon

Bart. D. Ehrman - Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why

Bart. D. Ehrman - Jesus Interrupted

Bart. D. Ehrman - God's problem
*TC would you recommend Ehrmans books?

Courses/Lectures

TTC - The Dead Sea Scrolls

TTC - Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battles over Authentication

TTC - Jesus and the Gospels

TTC - Historical Jesus

Unrelated, but OMG I love TTC Plato's Republic (for later)
Classical Mythology , Masters of Greek Thought: Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle.
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"GOD" is a name made by man when the earth was flat and the universe revolved around it.

God is imaginary...that is gospel.
Well that solves that.
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Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou series The Bible: A History. She describes herself as 'an atheist with huge respect for religion'.

Enough said her agenda is crystal clear. JMO
If you are an atheist so be it if you are a Christian then I can relate to on another level.
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Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou series The Bible: A History. She describes herself as 'an atheist with huge respect for religion'.

Enough said her agenda is crystal clear. JMO
If you are an atheist so be it if you are a Christian then I can relate to on another level.
So only agnostics are qualified to study holy texts, I take it?
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So only agnostics are qualified to study holy texts, I take it?
No anyone is free to study the Bible and denounce everything in it if that what they wish. There is no mysteries or illusions. It is a simple belief in faith.
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No anyone is free to study the Bible and denounce everything in it if that what they wish. There is no mysteries or illusions. It is a simple belief in faith.
I don't think she is "denouncing" anything.
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I don't think she is "denouncing" anything.
respectfully What would you call the purpose of her theory then?
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respectfully What would you call the purpose of her theory then?
A critical study of the bible, i.e., biblical criticism? Using critical methods to search for authenticity and truth in the writings, and trying to find rational explanations when none are adequately found? The field has little to do with "denouncing" the religion, although it seems you are ready to believe it as such.
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I don't think she is "denouncing" anything.
Not explicitly, but if someone believes in Biblical inerrancy, then pretty much any historical critical approach to the Bible is going to denounce their beliefs (since Biblical inerrancy can't stand up to any kind of reasonable scrutiny without collapsing).

So indirectly she would be, but so would lots of other Christian scholars by that measure.

The Bible Unearthed by Silberman and Finkelstein is another good book, though focused on Jewish scriptures.
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A critical study of the bible, i.e., biblical criticism? Using critical methods to search for authenticity and truth in the writings, and trying to find rational explanations when none are adequately found? The field has little to do with "denouncing" the religion, although it seems you are ready to believe it as such.
Exactly, wanting to know the history and development of such an influential book and group of religions is pretty obvious. I still find it hugely interesting (probably even more so) even though I no longer believe.
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I keep tossing Genesis 3:16 at my wife... But she still wears the pants.
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A critical study of the bible, i.e., biblical criticism? Using critical methods to search for authenticity and truth in the writings, and trying to find rational explanations when none are adequately found? The field has little to do with "denouncing" the religion, although it seems you are ready to believe it as such.
What I find interesting is this women
Dr Stavrakopoulou, who has a doctorate in theology from the University of Oxford, has confirmed she does not believe in God.
So why would she dedicate her lifes work going into a profession of Theology when she doesn't believe in the core element
of that which she is trying to understand or the answers she is seeking.
She is a antheist a very educated scholar of Oxford that does not believe in God.
Because of her intillect and education she has a platform and audience.
Her main purpose it is obvious is to challenge anything biblical.

This to me is like someone becoming a Dr for Cancer research but that person really feels Cancer is a hoax and dedicates years trying to prove that theory.
I strongly question her true motives just as she strongly questions the Bible and the belief in God.



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If her area of study is the Bible, how is her purpose to "challenge anything biblical"?

Finding out what happened in the past isn't "challenging anything biblical".

I think you are reading far too much into things and feeling threatened when you don't need to be.
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I don't feel threatened at all. Her theories are amusing.

God had a wife, David's Kingdom didn't exsist.
Stajan is going to score 50. Whatever floats her boat.
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