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Old 03-18-2019, 11:07 AM   #2941
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I'm not sure which is more damaging, the shadiness of this whole thing, or the absolute stupidity of this. Kenney had the leadership in the bag - this whole process was completely unnecessary. As if it would be significant in a provincial election whether he beat Brian Jean in a landslide or merely a clear margin. I'm not sure whether we actually want someone this completely stupid and hilariously short-sighted as Premier, and that's obviously not even taking account the potential criminality here.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:14 AM   #2942
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The UCP needs to get out in front of this mess and remove Kenney now. I can't believe what an idiot he is. They can nip this in the bud if they handle it correctly, if not it could rip the party apart. Thanks Kenney you freakin moron.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:15 AM   #2943
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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
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I'm not sure which is more damaging, the shadiness of this whole thing, or the absolute stupidity of this. Kenney had the leadership in the bag - this whole process was completely unnecessary. As if it would be significant in a provincial election whether he beat Brian Jean in a landslide or merely a clear margin. I'm not sure whether we actually want someone this completely stupid and hilariously short-sighted as Premier, and that's obviously not even taking account the potential criminality here.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
My thoughts exactly. Kenney has been around a long time.

I believe the collusion.

I don't believe he funneled money to Callaway. If he did, I don't want him as Premier. And I may be the biggest supporter of Jason Kenney in the province.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:19 AM   #2945
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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
Please let there be one.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:20 AM   #2946
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The wildest thing to me here is he didn't just do this to a political opponent, he literally did this to his own people, his own party. And for what? Because there was a slight chance Brian Jean could win? Just like 2015, the amount of arrogance here is so off putting.
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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
Maybe, but there is a German word for watching this ass clown crater tremendously in his slimy tactics and enjoying it
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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
Leon Letting?

Steve Smithing?

Jacobellising?

You could argue Buckner but at least the Sox had a chance to win game 7... although that might be the most appropriate analogy. Even after this, I'm not sure the UCP won't still be the odds-on favourite.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:24 AM   #2949
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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
There is a French one for sure.

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Is there a german word for having a victory locked up and then making a terrible, unforced error to lose in spectacular fashion?
I will ask if they have a similar expression.

This is a translation of snatching defeat from jaws of victory:

Schnapp dir die Niederlage aus den Klauen des Sieges
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Some information on some of the financing from a McLeans article:

Cam Davies, who said he worked on the UCP leadership campaign of Jeff Callaway as a communications manager, also admitted to facilitating the funding of Callaway’s campaign in a way that allegedly contravened Alberta law.

Davies said he received a transfer from a corporate entity of $60,000 into his personal bank account that, he alleges, was then re-distributed to Callaway’s campaign account to pay the candidate’s entry fee to the leadership contest. He said the origin of the money was then obfuscated, in part through fake donors whom he helped to obtain. Personal bank documents obtained by Maclean’s confirm the $60,000 payment to Davies.

There is no evidence that Jason Kenney or his team played any role in facilitating the payment of Callaway’s entry fee.

Donations made to the Callaway campaign are now being investigated by both the Alberta Election Commissioner, and the RCMP.
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Just getting caught up on this Kenney stuff. Would be interesting to see if there is any money trail going to Callaway, there has to be some sort of benefit for him to have agreed to do this. I'm not talking about someone paying his entry fee with the understanding that he will drop out later, I mean some kind of actual benefit to him. I imagine the RCMP will be looking at bank records, would be nice if we could find out the result of that prior to the election but I doubt they will get anything done that fast.
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Isn't part of of Kenny's plan to add a recall option for a riding? Would be interesting if the UCP was voted in and then the riding sent the message to recall Kenny.
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If the allegations are true then that would be a good option.
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Isn't part of of Kenny's plan to add a recall option for a riding? Would be interesting if the UCP was voted in and then the riding sent the message to recall Kenny.
The UCP Executive Director(who is Janice Harrington) has the discretion to remove any candidate who has proven harmful to the party. People need to tweet her and put the pressure on her.
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I am not overly surprised by the Callaway/Kenney connection. Isn't that politics? This is all internal party stuff, and if two people worked together to try and have one person be the leader...why is that such a bad thing?

I don't know, this seems to be blown fairly significantly out of proportion.

The money piece, however, is a different story.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:08 PM   #2958
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Here is a crazy quote from that Maclean’s article that makes me think there is a money trail.

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Jeff Callaway’s leadership donation disclosures show that Mann and two of his relatives donated $3,000 each—a total of $9,000—to Callaway’s campaign.

When asked whether that money came from Mann directly, Mann noted that these donations were under investigation and would say only: “My statement is always that I was helping Jason Kenney from day one. From where the money got arranged, they have to answer whether Happy’s money was Happy’s money or not Happy’s money. They have to answer that.”
That sounds like a non-confirmation confirmation.
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I am not overly surprised by the Callaway/Kenney connection. Isn't that politics? This is all internal party stuff, and if two people worked together to try and have one person be the leader...why is that such a bad thing?

I don't know, this seems to be blown fairly significantly out of proportion.

The money piece, however, is a different story.
It might be, but lying and deceiving the public in your quest for power is never a good look.

(and then denying it once caught)
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I am not overly surprised by the Callaway/Kenney connection. Isn't that politics? This is all internal party stuff, and if two people worked together to try and have one person be the leader...why is that such a bad thing?
Isn’t that politics? Maybe it is.
Should it be? Probably not.
Is it such a bad thing? Absolutely.

Electing the leader of a party isn’t some back-room politics sort of thing. Those who carry the cards required to vote for that leader are members of the public. If you intend to manipulate the public and break election rules to get your seat, in what way is that not “a bad thing”?

Doing what’s best for Albertans does not mean attempting to decide for them who leads them.
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