This won't age well...hopefully Holtby goes to the Oilers
Holtby also lost the starters job during the regular season where they won the cup before getting hot in the playoffs (starting in game 3 of the first round)
I think most NHL goalies could put up 30 wins with the caps
Ah yes, the old “anyone could do it” argument.
Anyone could go 282-122-46 with 2.52 and .916 over 10 years.
No, they couldn’t.
Holtby would be the best goalie we’ve had since Kiprusoff.
Why is Markstrom that much better a gamble? Holtby has six seasons that are better, and he’s less than half a year older. Plus a century’s worth off playoff starts.
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Anyone could go 282-122-46 with 2.52 and .916 over 10 years.
No, they couldn’t.
Holtby would be the best goalie we’ve had since Kiprusoff.
Why is Markstrom that much better a gamble? Holtby has six seasons that are better, and he’s less than half a year older. Plus a century’s worth off playoff starts.
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Plus Holtby would probably be a lot cheaper, have shorter term, and wouldn't completely cripple the franchise moving forward.
Anyone could go 282-122-46 with 2.52 and .916 over 10 years.
No, they couldn’t.
Holtby would be the best goalie we’ve had since Kiprusoff.
Why is Markstrom that much better a gamble? Holtby has six seasons that are better, and he’s less than half a year older. Plus a century’s worth off playoff starts.
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Because Markstrom has actually been good recently and not on a powerhouse team. EVERY NHL GM would rather have Markstrom right now. What he did in the past is irrelevant. Do you want Patrick Roy too?
I'm telling you the guy is done, I guarantee your posts won't age well
Anyone could go 282-122-46 with 2.52 and .916 over 10 years.
No, they couldn’t.
Holtby would be the best goalie we’ve had since Kiprusoff.
Why is Markstrom that much better a gamble? Holtby has six seasons that are better, and he’s less than half a year older. Plus a century’s worth off playoff starts.
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Well, the only thing I can see would be one appears to be on the upswing and the other, on a downward trend.
Holtby has a lot more miles on him because of his playoff games.
That and ye old "one goalie played great on a terrible team, carrying them on his back while the other played on a great team and has struggled".
Personally, IDC who they sign put of them both, ill be okay with them. Although I'd prefer the other angle to goaltending for Calgary, trade Ritter, sign Talbot back get Murray or one of the CLB kids.
I do think it is fascinating that the Flames aren't really looking at keeping any of their own FAs. Looks more like a re tool around the core.
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Playing goal for the Caps vs.
Playing goal for the rebuilding Canucks
Every NHL GM would take Markstrom FOR NEXT SEASON
I don’t know that that’s accurate.
I imagine at least a few of them would notice Markstrom has never had a single season as good as Braden Holtby.
They might also notice that playing goalie for the Capitals alongside the greatest goal scorer of his generation comes with a little more pressure year in and year out than slogging away on some rebuilding Canucks squads.
It might be valuable to have a goalie that’s seen everything and overcome everything, and who won’t get overwhelmed by the moment.
I’m cool if we end up with Markstrom, but we’re talking about Braden Holtby, not Brian Elliott.
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I imagine at least a few of them would notice Markstrom has never had a single season as good as Braden Holtby.
They might also notice that playing goalie for the Capitals alongside the greatest goal scorer of his generation comes with a little more pressure year in and year out than slogging away on some rebuilding Canucks squads.
It might be valuable to have a goalie that’s seen everything and overcome everything, and who won’t get overwhelmed by the moment.
I’m cool if we end up with Markstrom, but we’re talking about Braden Holtby, not Brian Elliott.
Its pretty obvious that Markstrom is the guy in greater demand around the league.
Just my opinion, but I am really leery about picking up Markstrom. Up until this past year, I've always viewed him as a really vanilla goalie. I suggested a few days ago that we sign Talbot, and trade for Murray (Dammage suggests one of the CBJ boys, and I'm down with that too), and trade Ritter.
Its pretty obvious that Markstrom is the guy in greater demand around the league.
Who cares.
Holtby has started 50 games 5 of the last 6 years, and would’ve done it again If not for Covid.
He has no injury history.
Are his numbers the last three years as good as his first seven? No.
But he does has a championship in there, where he played 23 games.
The lack of physical issues indicates the issue is more mental than physical. He could be worn out from the mental grind of Washington.
It would be unprecedented for a goalie of this talent to simply fall off the map at 31 with no physical justification.
Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, Joseph, Kiprusoff, Hasek, Thomas, Luongo, Fleury, Osgood, Barasso, Hextall, Lundqvist, Rinne, Khabibulin, the list goes on and on - if you are a noteworthy goalie who doesn’t suffer a major lower body injury, you can play well into your thirties.
This is not some 1-year wonder, this is a highly decorated ten year veteran who has accomplished everything a goaltender can.
If he’s in less demand than a guy who had a decent year on a team that wasn’t even expected to make the playoffs, I say we capitalize on the rest of the league’s ignorance.
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Last edited by GreenLantern2814; 10-05-2020 at 10:40 PM.
Reason: Holtby actually does have a Vezina, and finished runner up the year after.
Braden Holtby's GSAA the last 3 seasons:
2017-18: -8.37 (ranked 54th out of 69 goalies)
2018-19: 1.87 (ranked 31st out of 68 goalies)
2019-20: -16.81 (ranked 65th out of 66 goalies)
Total last 3 seasons: -23.45 (ranked 65th out of 72 goalies)
Save percentage over last 3 seasons: .906 (ranked 55th out of 72 goalies)
High Danger Save Percentage over last 3 seasons: .800 (57th out of 72 goalies)
If we could stop drinking the "Braden Holtby is so good, he'd be our best goaltender since Kiprusoff!!" kool-aid now, that would be great.
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Braden Holtby's GSAA the last 3 seasons:
2017-18: -8.37 (ranked 54th out of 69 goalies)
2018-19: 1.87 (ranked 31st out of 68 goalies)
2019-20: -16.81 (ranked 65th out of 66 goalies)
Total last 3 seasons: -23.45 (ranked 65th out of 72 goalies)
Save percentage over last 3 seasons: .906 (ranked 55th out of 72 goalies)
High Danger Save Percentage over last 3 seasons: .800 (57th out of 72 goalies)
If we could stop drinking the "Braden Holtby is so good, he'd be our best goaltender since Kiprusoff!!" kool-aid now, that would be great.
Goalies never need a change of scenery, eh?
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I read all these posts every year on the eve of the draft, trade deadline, or free agency, and I always get excited.
I strongly believe this is a draft and free agency for the Flames to get right. I don't remember who posted it, but someone said there are more players being expected to move than fans would think. And if there is mad shuffle of players on rosters because of this situation and the stagnant cap space, then the Flames better take full advantage it.
This feels like a year more than previous, that people watching this team know they can't compete all the way with this roster. Please do something tomorrow.
