2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[SuperMatt18]

Sean Tierney has a pretty good thread on the UFA goalies here:

https://twitter.com/chartinghockey/s...034538497?s=21

Holtby is interesting in that at his peak he was one of the best goalies in the world but was bad last year, honestly based on usually year to year goalie fluctuations he probably has the best chance of a bounce back.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Biggest takeaway for me is that if Markstrom falls through, they’re as committed to getting Holtby.

Holtby is the all time leader in playoff save percentage. He’s a champion, a
member of the Canadian national team, and he’s 30.

Instantly he’s the most accomplished goalie they’ve had since Vernon.

We could do a whole lot worse.

No.
If you're using past form as the measure, that would be Fuhr.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Biggest takeaway for me is that if Markstrom falls through, they’re as committed to getting Holtby.

Holtby is the all time leader in playoff save percentage. He’s a champion, a
member of the Canadian national team, and he’s 30.

Instantly he’s the most accomplished goalie they’ve had since Vernon.

We could do a whole lot worse.

Actually I'm not so sure about that...

While I have some minor confidence Holtby could bounce back, he was horrible in 2019-20 & 2017-18 while being average at best in 2018-19

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Yeah, I do feel like a lot depends on Hall.

If he signs here, it affects their ability to present Brodie with a competitive offer or throw enough money at Markstrom to get him to bite. If Hall opts for a one year contract with a contender, I could see us re-sign Brodie, put in a good bid for Markstrom and tinker with the forwards with cheaper middle six type adds.

If they sign him I'd expect them to subsequently trade a roster player to shed money to address goalie/other needs. And that could very well be Gaudreau.

I don’t think Hall has anything to do with what they are going to offer Markstrom. I think the Flames come with a 6x6 number with heavy trade protection through the first 3-4 years and should have a good chance of winning those sweepstakes.

I think if they get Hall it almost guarantees Johnny is traded but if they don’t acquire Hall I think it could be closer to 50-50 if they move Johnny.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Except he has been terrible the last two seasons

So? Kiprusoff has some pedestrian years on his CV, he never stopped being Miikka Kiprusoff.

Holtby has been .920 or better 6/10 years for his career.

He’s been better than .910 for 8/10.

He’s been over .920 in the playoffs five times, with a career playoff save percentage of .926. Two years ago, he was a champion with a .922.

It’s worth repeating, .926 is the highest playoff save percentage in league history.

He’s a global pandemic away from six consecutive 30 win seasons.

I should correct myself. Holtby just turned 31.

Which means he has lots of life left in him, at least another four or five years of really high level play.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Basically GTFO with the cheap owner nonsense

Is this regarding coaching hires? If so, have you ever heard of prioritization? You can spend lots of money on Alternative A but cheap out or don't think its important to spend money on Alternative B

I like spending good money on shoes but I usually always hit the bargin bin for belts and socks.

If you are talking about something else.. then nevermind.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I know you guys are. I would be too. All those dreams at the start of the off-season only for you guys to get told that players that have control don't want to play in Calgary. I'm sure Talbot will bounce back.

How did trading Luongo and keeping Schneider work out for the Canucks?

[Jacks]

Holtby has been .920 or better 6/10 years for his career.

He’s been better than .910 for 8/10.

He’s been over .920 in the playoffs five times, with a career playoff save percentage of .926. Two years ago, he was a champion with a .922.

It’s worth repeating, .926 is the highest playoff save percentage in league history.

He’s a global pandemic away from six consecutive 30 win seasons.

I should correct myself. Holtby just turned 31.

Which means he has lots of life left in him, at least another four or five years of really high level play.

Imagine how good his stats would look if you didn't count the last 3 years where he's been not so good. Someone is going to overpay Holtby, hopefully it's another team.

[GioforPM]

Holtby’s stats dove when Mitch Korn left with Trotz. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Imagine how good his stats would look if you didn't count the last 3 years where he's been not so good. Someone is going to overpay Holtby, hopefully it's another team.

Holtby didn’t suffer any debilitating injuries. He didn’t forget how to play the position.

Maybe he was worn out playing in Washington - being cup or bust every year can’t be easy.

He won. Two years ago, he had a .922 save percentage en route to a championship.

This position is 95% mental. Holtby has a proven track record of being a mentally elite goalie.

I’d certainly go with his body of work over Markstrom.

The dude is elite, and has been since he came into the league.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

How did trading Luongo and keeping Schneider work out for the Canucks?

Went fine. Bo Horvat says hi.

[868904]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Yeah seems a bit weird. I have to presume he is not option #1 for the flames.

I think the teams and players just have no idea where the market is. When there is this much uncertainty, you’d can’t be making hard offers with numbers until there is a better indication of the market.

Tre could offer $5 x 5 years now but what if the market is actually $4 x 5? Tre tries to go back on the offer to match the market and the Brodie camp would get upset.

I think it’s the same for Talbot, Flames aren’t making real offers because they don’t know where the market is yet, and they won’t till Markstrom signs.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

So? Kiprusoff has some pedestrian years on his CV, he never stopped being Miikka Kiprusoff.

Holtby has been .920 or better 6/10 years for his career.

He’s been better than .910 for 8/10.

He’s been over .920 in the playoffs five times, with a career playoff save percentage of .926. Two years ago, he was a champion with a .922.

It’s worth repeating, .926 is the highest playoff save percentage in league history.

He’s a global pandemic away from six consecutive 30 win seasons.

I should correct myself. Holtby just turned 31.

Which means he has lots of life left in him, at least another four or five years of really high level play.

Just so we're clear... you do know that heading into last years Playoffs that Mike Smith had the highest playoff save percentage in league history, right?

Just making sure.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

So? Kiprusoff has some pedestrian years on his CV, he never stopped being Miikka Kiprusoff.

Holtby has been .920 or better 6/10 years for his career.

He’s been better than .910 for 8/10.

He’s been over .920 in the playoffs five times, with a career playoff save percentage of .926. Two years ago, he was a champion with a .922.

It’s worth repeating, .926 is the highest playoff save percentage in league history.

He’s a global pandemic away from six consecutive 30 win seasons.

I should correct myself. Holtby just turned 31.

Which means he has lots of life left in him, at least another four or five years of really high level play.

This won't age well...hopefully Holtby goes to the Oilers

Holtby also lost the starters job during the regular season where they won the cup before getting hot in the playoffs (starting in game 3 of the first round)

I think most NHL goalies could put up 30 wins with the caps

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Went fine. Bo Horvat says hi.

And the team's record since that trade?

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Went fine. Bo Horvat says hi.

And Markstrom, since he was the main piece for Lu

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by dino7c

And the team's record since that trade?

I don't know what you are trying to prove, but goaltending hasn't been their issue.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Just so we're clear... you do know that heading into last years Playoffs that Mike Smith had the highest playoff save percentage in league history, right?

Just making sure.

Correct you are - At one point, Holtby was the all time leader.

As it stands, he’s 8th best all time, tied with Rask and Patrick Lalime, and one point better than JS Giguere and some plug named Hasek.

Holtby has six .920 seasons to his credit in ten years.

Markstrom has zero.

Holtby has 97 playoff games under his belt.

Markstrom has 14, and they all happened last month.

Markstrom is four months younger than Holtby.

I dunno, if we have our pick of both, it seems like Holtby is who we want.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Went fine. Bo Horvat says hi.

You mean Blow Whorevat?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Correct you are - At one point, Holtby was the all time leader.

As it stands, he’s 8th best all time, tied with Rask and Patrick Lalime, and one point better than JS Giguere and some plug named Hasek.

Holtby has six .920 seasons to his credit in ten years.

Markstrom has zero.

Holtby has 97 playoff games under his belt.

Markstrom has 14, and they all happened last month.

Markstrom is four months younger than Holtby.

I dunno, if we have our pick of both, it seems like Holtby is who we want.

lol you can't be serious

Playing goal for the Caps vs.
Playing goal for the rebuilding Canucks

Every NHL GM would take Markstrom FOR NEXT SEASON