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Old 10-04-2020, 02:18 PM   #1
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Figured there are enough of us running through potential roster changes that it might be fun to speculate for a day or two leading up to the chaos of this week.

Let's do it with some rules:

Predict up to:

- Two UFA Forwards
- Two UFA Defencemen
- One UFA Goaltender (If needed)
- Two Trades
- Who the Flames draft in the 1st and 2nd round of the NHL Entry Draft

I'll start:

Trade 1:
To Carolina: Johnny Gaudreau
To Calgary: 2020 1st round pick (13th), 2020 2nd round pick (41st), 2020 2nd round pick (52nd), Ryan Suzuki

Trade 2:
To New Jersey: Noah Hanifin
To Calgary: 2020 1st round pick (18th), Ty Smith

UFA Forwards:
Taylor Hall (7 years, $8.25M AAV)
Patrick Maroon (3 years, $1.35M AAV)

UFA Defencemen:
TJ Brodie (5 years, $4.55M AAV)
Michael Stone (1 year, $700K AAV)

UFA Goalie:
Jacob Markstrom (5 years, $6M AAV)

1st Round Picks:
13th - Dylan Holloway
18th - Connor Zary
19th - Mavrik Bourque

2nd round picks:
41st - Ozzy Wiesblatt
49th - Jean-Luc Foudy
52nd - Dmitri Ovchinnikov
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Trade 1 murray for a 2nd and Ritchie
Trade 2 Ryan for a 6th
Ufa vantanen
UFA hall
1st round pick - holloway

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Old 10-04-2020, 02:28 PM   #3
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Trade 1
Buffalo gets :
Johnny Gaudreau
Oliver Kylington
Calgary gets:
8th, Cozens, Ristolainen

Trade 2
NJ gets:
Noah Hanifin
Calgary gets:
18th, Mirco Mueller, Mike McLeod

UFA:
Taylor Hall
Sami Vatanen
Braden Holtby

Draft:
8. Askarov
18. Amirov
19. Barron

2nd:

Topi Niemela

This prediction lays the groundwork for the next core to fit in with the current core. Best of both worlds of win now and win later.

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Old 10-04-2020, 02:42 PM   #4
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Trade 1
Buffalo gets :
Johnny Gaudreau
Oliver Kylington
Calgary gets:
8th, Cozens, Ristolainen

Trade 2
NJ gets:
Noah Hanifin
Calgary gets:
18th, Mirco Mueller, Mike McLeod

UFA:
Taylor Hall
Sami Vatanen
Braden Holtby

Draft:
8. Askarov
18. Amirov
19. Barron

2nd:

Topi Niemela

This prediction lays the groundwork for the next core to fit in with the current core. Best of both worlds of win now and win later.

That Buffalo trade is heavily tilted towards the Flames.
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Old 10-04-2020, 02:44 PM   #5
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That Buffalo trade is heavily tilted towards the Flames.
Over pay or no way, I thought that was the concensus around here to move Johnny button hook.

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I really hope we don't sign Sami Vatanen. I just don't see an awful lot that I actually like about the player. It pretty much ends at "oh he's right handed"
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:03 PM   #7
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The Flames make no trades. They sign Markstrom and TJ Brodie. They draft Lapierre at 19. I have no clue who they take in the 2nd rnd.
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I really hope we don't sign Sami Vatanen. I just don't see an awful lot that I actually like about the player. It pretty much ends at "oh he's right handed"
I like his game. He can skate the puck up the ice, he's good in transition and battles hard. And he doesn't mind blocking shots which the Flames need more of.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:34 PM   #9
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Calgary Trade One
Johnny Gaudreau to New Jersey for 18 OVR, 20 OVR and Pavel Zacha

Calgary Trade Two
Micheal Backlund to Minnesota for Luke Kunin and Adam Beckman

UFA One
Vlad Namestnikov

UFA Two
Cam Talbot

UFA Three
Dylan Demelo

Round One
#18 Hendrix Lapierre #19 Dylan Holloway #20 Ridley Grieg

Round 2
#52 Alex Cotton

Tkachuk - Monahan - Lindholm
Dube - Bennett - Namestnikov
Mangiapane - Zacha - Kunin
Lucic - Ryan - Phillips
Gawdin

Hanifin - Andersson
Giordano - Kylington
Valimaki - Demelo

Rittich
Talbot
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Old 10-04-2020, 04:26 PM   #10
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Calgary Trade One
Johnny Gaudreau to New Jersey for 18 OVR, 20 OVR and Pavel Zacha

Calgary Trade Two
Micheal Backlund to Minnesota for Luke Kunin and Adam Beckman

UFA One
Vlad Namestnikov

UFA Two
Cam Talbot

UFA Three
Dylan Demelo


Round One
#18 Hendrix Lapierre #19 Dylan Holloway #20 Ridley Grieg

Round 2
#52 Alex Cotton

Tkachuk - Monahan - Lindholm
Dube - Bennett - Namestnikov
Mangiapane - Zacha - Kunin
Lucic - Ryan - Phillips
Gawdin

Hanifin - Andersson
Giordano - Kylington
Valimaki - Demelo

Rittich
Talbot
Might as well trade Sean also to give flames better chance at first overall pick. That team doesn’t make the playoffs.
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Prediction? If any of these trades for draft picks takes place the Flames will be thankful COVID is still a thing. Otherwise they would have to explain why they were playing to an empty house.
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Old 10-04-2020, 04:37 PM   #12
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If you think that the younger players are going to suck year after year, then allowing them more ice time is the wrong way to go. You are right to be negative.
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- UFA Forwards:
Taylor Hall (7 years x 8.00 AAV)
Bobby Ryan (1 year x 1.25 AAV)

- UFA Defencemen
TJ Brodie (3 years x 5.5 AAV)
Trevor Van Riemsdyke (2 years x 2.25 AAV)

- One UFA Goaltender (If needed)
Jacob Markstrom (5 years x 6 AAV)

- Two Trades
Johnny Gaudreau to BUF for Rasmus Ristolainen, 2021 1st Round pick (unprotected), Dylan Cozens

- Who the Flames draft in the 1st and 2nd round of the NHL Entry Draft
Connor Zary
Lukas Cormier
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Old 10-04-2020, 05:08 PM   #14
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Flames will acquire a goalie, but I it won't be Markstrom. I think they will resign TJ Brodie. Gaudreau will not be traded. No other big name free agents will sign with the Flames. I hope I'm wrong on all except resigning of Brodie.
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Calgary Trade One
Johnny Gaudreau to New Jersey for 18 OVR, 20 OVR and Pavel Zacha

Calgary Trade Two
Micheal Backlund to Minnesota for Luke Kunin and Adam Beckman

UFA One
Vlad Namestnikov

UFA Two
Cam Talbot

UFA Three
Dylan Demelo

Round One
#18 Hendrix Lapierre #19 Dylan Holloway #20 Ridley Grieg

Round 2
#52 Alex Cotton

Tkachuk - Monahan - Lindholm
Dube - Bennett - Namestnikov
Mangiapane - Zacha - Kunin
Lucic - Ryan - Phillips
Gawdin

Hanifin - Andersson
Giordano - Kylington
Valimaki - Demelo

Rittich
Talbot
I'm sure a lot of folks would torch you for this idea, but in reality within a season or two this squad would be more productive than what the Flames will be icing if they stay the course. It may be a bit painful next year, but from a management perspective I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep worrying about the gate in the 2020-21 season. If you want to retool over a 2-4 year period, this is the year to start that process.

For those who see Backlund as no more than a third line center, or anticipate that liberating Sean Monahan from the anchor that is Johnny Gaudreau will finally unleash the 1st line beast, these moves should be delicious.
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Treliving wins a trade or two or three.
Treliving signs players to great contracts.
Flames look good.

Fans still call for Treliving to be fired.

Flames win Stanley Cup. Same fans ask if we can finally fire Treliving.
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Too many people want to trade Johnny but think Monahan is 1 Center. This team is going no where with Monahan as 1C. He does absolutely nothing for himself. Dude out here flexing for pics but can't even lay a hit. He's made a living off cherry picking Johnny's feeds.

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Old 10-04-2020, 06:18 PM   #18
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Half prediction, half wishlist

Trade 1:
Derek Ryan to NYR for 5th round pick (134th overall)

Trade 2:
Noah Hanifin to Ottawa for 28th Overall + 52nd overall

RFA's:
Mangiapane @ 2.75 x 3
Kylington @ 0.730 x 1

UFA Goalie:
Markstrom @ 6.0 x 5

UFA Defense 1:
Pietrangelo @ 9.5 x 7

UFA Defense 2:
Shattenkirk 2.0 x 2

UFA Forward 1:
Maroon @ 1.25 x 2

UFA Forward 2:
Reider @ 0.750 x 1

Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Lindholm (4.85)
Tkachuk (7.0) - Backlund (5.35) - Mangiapane (2.75)
Maroon (1.25) - Bennett (2.55) - Dube (0.778)
Lucic (5.25) - Ruzicka (0.802) - Reider (0.750)
Pettersen (0.903)

Giordano (6.75) - Andersson (4.55)
Valimaki (0.778) - Pietrangelo (9.5)
Shattenkirk (2.0) - Kylington (0.730)
Mackey (0.925)

Markstrom (6.0)
Rittich (2.75)

Total Cap: $79.341
Cap Space Available: $2.159 Million

(Assumes we get 2 more picks in rounds 1/2 from trading Hanifin)
19th Overall Draft Pick:
Hendrix Lapierre

28th Overall Draft Pick:
Noel Gunler

50th Overall Draft Pick:
Yan Kuznetsov

52nd Overall Draft Pick:
Jack Finley

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Old 10-04-2020, 06:20 PM   #19
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UFA:
Forward
  • Taylor Hall
  • Wayne Simmonds

Defence
  • TJ Brodie (re-signs before FA starts)
  • Chris "Great Save" Tanev

Goalie
  • Jacob Markström
  • Aaron Dell

Trades:
I'm no good at predicting returns, but if my UFA predictions come true...
Gaudreau gets traded only if Hall signs, so nothing will happen on that front until after the draft.

If the Flames aquire Markstrom or another goalie capable of playing 50-60 games, Rittich gets traded and the Flame sign local kid, Dell as the backup (and Parsons takes the spot before the end of the season).

Draft:
1st Round: Connor Zary
2nd Round: Ryan O'Rourke
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This is a mix of what I hope will happen with a combination of what I think could happen

To Flyers: Gaudreau
To Flames: Frost, 1st, Zemula, Gostisbhere
Flames trade Johnny home and add 3 pieces for the future and begin remaking their blueline. Frost, and Zumula fit the need of center and right shot D and they add another first round pick to the stable

To any team looking for a 3-4 C: Derek Ryan
To Flames: 3rd round pick
Flames dump cap and get a pick in a round they don’t have a selection

To Bruins: Hanifin, Mangipane
To Flames: Carlo, DeBrusk
This is the trade no one saw coming and a bit out of left field. Boston likes the hometown boy who comes with longer term security. Mangipane has a contentious negotiation with the Flames last summer that may have left a bad taste in the mouths of both sides. They move on just as the Bruins are rumored to be moving on from DeBrusk

Flames sign Markstrom 5.75x6 with a NMC. Flames get their guy and give him the security he desires and the team knows their goaltending plan for the next several years with this move

Flames sign Taylor Hall $8.5M x 7 years NMC/buyout proof bonus laden contract. Just like the Oilers with Lucic back in 2016 the Flames get one of the best free agents on the market but are forced to ante up an extremely risky contract that includes a NMC, and buyout proof bonus structure.

Hall-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-DeBrusk
Lucic-Bennett-Dube
TBD-Frost-TBD- Depth ufa signings or prospects fill the 4th line role

Giordano-Andersson
Valimaki-Carlo
Gostisbhere-Kylington

Markstrom
Rittich

Definitely a different looking team
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