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Old 07-10-2019, 04:25 PM   #181
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A year later, the trade looks like this

Hanifin, Lindholm

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Hamilton, 2nd, conditional 3rd
Plus Hamilton has 2 years left until he's a UFA, while Hanifin and Lindholm have 5 years left each!
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:45 PM   #182
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Hopefully this makes for an interesting regular season. Canucks with some luck and good health could be in the mix for top 3.
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:46 PM   #183
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Makes Virtanen expendable. Could be a cheap pick up with potential upside.
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:56 PM   #184
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Hopefully this makes for an interesting regular season. Canucks with some luck and good health could be in the mix for top 3.
Mmmmmm. No.

Good luck and good health probably gets the Canucks only as far as the playoffs.
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:58 PM   #185
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Hopefully this makes for an interesting regular season. Canucks with some luck and good health could be in the mix for top 3.

Did Calgary, Vegas, and San Jose call in sick for the entire season?
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:04 PM   #186
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This is horrible news.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:15 PM   #187
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Ferland's certainly the type of player you hate to play against. Good pickup for Vancouver.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:23 PM   #188
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Good move by the Canucks...this will haunt the Flames for years.
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You get the sense that Dundon and Waddell are pretty crappy negotiators.

Of course a player is going to ask for the moon initially. Don't take it personally.

Would have much rather Ferland stayed in Carolina.
If that was the starting point for negotiations from Ferkland's camp, then I don't blame them for telling him to go pound sand.

That was not a realistic strarting point for good faith negotiations. If he came with that number, Carolina would have had to counter with a $1 miilion AAV just to hope to land somewhere in the middle by the end of it. Which is where the market dictated he belongs.

It's easy to see why they couldn't negotiate with Ferkland. Not to dismiss the the entire point you made, but I can't blame them here. Assuming the information is true.
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Awesome for ferland bad for us
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:46 PM   #191
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I think Carolina, knowing the medical synopsis from his injuries this year, and no way would they offer him a 4 year commitment.

And on top of that, they saw first hand the streakiness of his production in playoffs.

As has been mentioned, he’s not far away from reaching the magic number of concussions where the doctor won’t let him play, and they’ll come easier than they have before. Upper body injuries March 15th then another April 15th, which kept him out almost a month during the playoffs.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:52 PM   #192
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Good move by the Canucks...this will haunt the Flames for years.
Yes because the Flames had a horrible season without him in their lineup. Reminds me of the whiners that said the Sven Baertschi trade was a mistake and would haunt the Flames. Stocking up on ex-Flames has not paid large dividends for the Canucks.

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Good move by the Canucks...this will haunt the Flames for years.
I don't think so. This isn't the same Ferland from a few years ago. He's still a decent player who plays with an edge, but he won't be running into Flames like he did Bieska, he's just not cut out to do that game in, game out anymore.

He'll be physical, he'll put up some points, but that contract length is too long. I'm glad he got a huge pay day, but he won't haunt the Flames for years.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:53 PM   #194
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Good addition for the Nucks although that term is very risky. I'm still not sure what Benning's strategy is though. He has been doubling down on trades and FA in an attempt to make the playoffs but that roster is still lucky to be a bubble team.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:56 PM   #195
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A year later, the trade looks like this

Hanifin, Lindholm

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Hamilton, 2nd, conditional 3rd
However, if we didn't trade away Ferland, we most likely don't sign Neal to replace his goal scoring.
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However, if we didn't trade away Ferland, we most likely don't sign Neal to replace his goal scoring.
If the requirement to make the trade happen was Ferland then it was still totally worth it Neal and all. Flames got two younger cost controlled cornerstone players for one. Every team has some bad contracts on their roster.
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Now that he is the enemy, I can't wait to see Gio light him up with a huge open ice hit.
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Old 07-10-2019, 06:04 PM   #198
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Makes Virtanen expendable. Could be a cheap pick up with potential upside.
That's an interesting thought
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Makes Virtanen expendable. Could be a cheap pick up with potential upside.
Or Goldobin. Wouldbt mind either if the price was right.
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Old 07-10-2019, 06:12 PM   #200
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Hope he can stay healthy. Nice to see him cash in, with his concussion issues.
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