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Old 02-11-2019, 12:00 PM   #961
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Took the dog for 30 min walks at the off-leash on Saturday and Sunday and it wasn't bad if you dressed for it. Sunny, not much of a wind. Though there was definitely a big difference walking against the wind than walking with it.

The icy roads are more of a pain for me at this point than the temperatures.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:19 PM   #962
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I hate the wind chill being expressed in degrees, as it makes people do this. Worst is the media has started doing this as well. 660 was talking about Calgary having "temperatures in the -40s."
What's worse is when they tell you to plug in your car because the wind chill is -40 something. People understand that wind chill doesn't affect inanimate objects right?

Watts / square meter is the best way to relate wind chill values but they've had to dumb it down for the masses.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:35 PM   #963
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I think the wind will cool down objects to the ambient temperature faster than if there wasn't any wind. There is a boundary layer of sorts around anything that is warmer than ambient. The wind can cut through that layer.

My only first hand experience with this is flying crappy little airplanes in the north.

We would generally tent and plug in the engines if we were parked anywhere for a longer period of time. But sometimes we were in a community just for an hour or so. So wouldn't bother tenting. If there was any amount of wind, generally the engine that was more into the wind had a lower oil temperature when we returned to head to the next community.

So generally speaking, I think inanimate objects can be affected by a "wind chill". But the value given to the wind chill is a purely human thing.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:43 PM   #964
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That is correct. The wind will bring an intimate object down to the ambient temperature faster than if there is no wind. However it will not make the temperature lower unless said object is covered by some sort of membrane with liquid water in it.

So a car in -25 with no wind will retain engine heat longer than the same car in -25 with a -40 wind chill. However both cars outside for 8 hours will have the same starting capabilities, as the engines will both be at -25.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:43 PM   #965
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Well ya, objects can be brought down to ambient quicker, it's the same reason fans work. But the wind and fans can't cool below that point.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:49 PM   #966
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More accurately, wind chill doesn't affect dry objects or objects that don't emit heat. /science semantics.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...erta-1.5014113

I like to think this cold snap is Mother Nature finally getting fed up with this problem and saving Alberta in the process.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:28 PM   #968
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Extreme cold stubbornly lingering over the province for more than week is keeping nightly lows around the –35 C mark.
1) Is that -35 temperature, or wind chill?
2) Do the pine beetles feel the wind chill? Or are the deep enough into the trees that they need the -35 temperature?
3) Do the pine trees feel the wind chill?
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:49 PM   #969
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I like to think this cold snap is Mother Nature finally getting fed up with this problem and saving Alberta in the process.
I hope it killed off more than 1/10 of them #pedantsunite.
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It's not as cold here in BC as it is in Alberta but there's a ton of snow getting dumped on the Island and the Lower Mainland. Started on Friday on the Island and Saturday in Vancouver. Another 15-25 cm expected from now through to the morning. Do not want.
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Yep, as an in between liver of both AB and Victoria, Victoria is super effed right now. all the roads are iced up with little to no sanding or salting. it's a stuggler fest out there.
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My friend rebooked her flight to Victoria with Helijet after all the Harbour Air seaplanes were cancelled today but the helicopter had to turn back to Vancouver after about halfway due to crazy conditions.
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Yep, as an in between liver of both AB and Victoria, Victoria is super effed right now. all the roads are iced up with little to no sanding or salting. it's a stuggler fest out there.
Can confirm. In Victoria and we're F'd. Day 2 of school closures tomorrow. It's an incredible amount of snow for sure.
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My friend rebooked her flight to Victoria with Helijet after all the Harbour Air seaplanes were cancelled today but the helicopter had to turn back to Vancouver after about halfway due to crazy conditions.
My wife took the ferry to Vic yesterday, waited 2 hours for a bus that didn't come and took a ferry straight back to Van.
From leaving home to returning back home, was 10 hours of no point.
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That is correct. The wind will bring an intimate object down to the ambient temperature faster than if there is no wind. However it will not make the temperature lower unless said object is covered by some sort of membrane with liquid water in it.

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What kind of intimate objects are we talking about here??
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Can confirm. In Victoria and we're F'd. Day 2 of school closures tomorrow. It's an incredible amount of snow for sure.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer province. Maybe the legislature will be buried in the snow.

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Back to back nasty February's. Hopefully March is closer to normal.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:06 AM   #979
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Crazy amount of freezing rain down here in Southern Ontario this morning, roads are crap!
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Crazy amount of freezing rain down here in Southern Ontario this morning, roads are crap!
Holy crap this is going to turn into rain!?!? Just snow here so far, but lots of it.
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