If the abhorrent abuse of a citizen doesn't bother you and right or wrong you support the police maybe the fact that this is exactly why cops get shot should bother you. This video and thousands more similar to it and thousands more similar situations that go unrecorded make policing a wildly dangerous job. This video will definitely cost someone their life. So enjoy it while you can.
The officers were suspended, and rightfully so, but not sure how my lack of sympathy for domestic batterers translates into whatever else the above is. But do carry on.
On a related note, I do find your financial aid in support of domestic batterers (Rodman) off putting, but each to their own I guess.
The officers were suspended, and rightfully so, but not sure how my lack of sympathy for domestic batterers translates into whatever else the above is. But do carry on.
On a related note, I do find your financial aid in support of domestic batterers (Rodman) off putting, but each to their own I guess.
Yep. To each their own for sure. But you at least have to realize that when cops violate people's rights, and domestic abusers do still have rights, it makes life significantly worse for cops who are not total maniacs. The epitome of ignorance is irony. Guys like you that support this sort of abuse are completely clueless as to the consequences. I'll support people who fix their lives any day of the week. But you supporting this has the opposite consequences of your intention.
Wait, the guy who called alleged child rapist Doug Gilmour the nicest person ever is going to insult others for (maybe) liking alleged domestic abuser Bobby Hull? Neither were convicted, but evidently that doesn't matter to you given your recent posts.
In the video, the deputies can be seen forcing Straw to the ground. A deputy appears to punch Straw in the back of the head more than 20 times.
Marion County Sheriff's officials contend that Straw was resisting arrest and had a knife in his possession. They said an outside law enforcement agency will be reviewing the incident.
So the guy had a knife, so there was some risk to the officers unlike some of the others. But yet another example of them escalating a situation way beyond what it was.
That's really not escalating the situation, that's just pure assault.
And the knife is a red herring, the guy is homeless, he had all his belongings on him. A knife is an extremely useful and necessary tool to have. Finding it in his possession (assuming he wasn't holding it) isn't much different then them finding a knife in a residence (i.e. every house ever).
Although he's white, so this should probably go into the police transgression thread we had before.
"I came to warn you about the cougar," he said while pinned to the ground. "There's a cougar. It's hurting people."
Haha, I guess the cougar got away then while police were beating him up? So, cougars are actually above whites in the food chain of racist policing. Good to know.
Honestly, that looked terribly excessive.
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That's really not escalating the situation, that's just pure assault.
And the knife is a red herring, the guy is homeless, he had all his belongings on him. A knife is an extremely useful and necessary tool to have. Finding it in his possession (assuming he wasn't holding it) isn't much different then them finding a knife in a residence (i.e. every house ever).
Although he's white, so this should probably go into the police transgression thread we had before.
Agreed about the red herring angle. Just didn't want to make it look like I was hiding or ignoring the fact there was a weapon in this case.
Also, with the thread title including oppression, I figured this was still the best place for it. But point conceded.
Why should he? According to him, they were the only ones in the pool. And showering before hoping in a Pool should be more enforced.
According to her, they weren't the only ones in the pool. But let's say he's not racist -- to go around telling people they are dirty to their faces is still pretty stupid. He could have reported them to the management discreetly.
It's like that BBQ Becky incident. Turns out she was an air quality engineer so her concern about people burning charcoal in a park may be legitimate but why would somebody try to ruin a family bbq? Surely an anonymous call to the bylaw office would be a better way to handle the situation? Given the sensitivity of the racial incidents today, you would think people would get a clue.
According to her, they weren't the only ones in the pool. But let's say he's not racist -- to go around telling people they are dirty to their faces is still pretty stupid. He could have reported them to the management discreetly.
It's like that BBQ Becky incident. Turns out she was an air quality engineer so her concern about people burning charcoal in a park may be legitimate but why would somebody try to ruin a family bbq? Surely an anonymous call to the bylaw office would be a better way to handle the situation? Given the sensitivity of the racial incidents today, you would think people would get a clue.
IT would be racist to not do your job if your expectations were the same for everyone.
Why? Someone befronts you, you should record it, put on the internet, sensationalize the hell out of it, and publically reveal their identity? The only thing worse would be others who weren’t affected by anything at all naming someone for public shaming, based upon some short clip of an interaction.
The standard of evidence before publically outing someone needs to be a #### of a lot stronger than a video of after the fact altercation.
Sure, someone on video doing something clearly egregious, if you think the appropriate response is to inter-mob some idea of justice, have at it. I’ll disagree most of the time. But honestly, you think a he said/she said argument between two people is worthy of the eternal consequences of face and name ID? Mob justice is disgusting and lacks any standard of law 99.9% of the time.
Why? Someone befronts you, you should record it, put on the internet, sensationalize the hell out of it, and publically reveal their identity? The only thing worse would be others who weren’t affected by anything at all naming someone for public shaming, based upon some short clip of an interaction.
The standard of evidence before publically outing someone needs to be a #### of a lot stronger than a video of after the fact altercation.
Sure, someone on video doing something clearly egregious, if you think the appropriate response is to inter-mob some idea of justice, have at it. I’ll disagree most of the time. But honestly, you think a he said/she said argument between two people is worthy of the eternal consequences of face and name ID? Mob justice is disgusting and lacks any standard of law 99.9% of the time.
The law only concerns itself with legal ramifications. While I agree that “mob justice” re:internet outing doesn’t meet legal standards, the results are also not law-related, so it doesn’t matter.
Anyway, some of these I feel are going to extremes. Who knows what happened at the pool before. The histrionics in the video don't really help. The family could have arrived at the pool deck completely dry, making someone wonder if they did shower. I have seen some pool staff talk to kids who arrive at the pool and tell them to rinse off because they obviously didn't rinse off.
Pools are gross though. I wish I had a nickel for every bandage or booger I saw floating in the pool.
IT would be racist to not do your job if your expectations were the same for everyone.
I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to but nobody was "doing their job". According to the woman, the man tried claiming he was a health inspector but the hotel said that was not true.