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Old 01-31-2024, 06:10 PM   #101
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Kuzmenko would be a placeholder and likely flipped by the deadline next year. The plan could be to get his value up, then sell high.

If the potential high returns for Lindholm are not there, then it makes sense.
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Why would we want Kuzmenko?
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Old 01-31-2024, 06:10 PM   #103
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If Kuzmenko is part of rhe deal I would guess that no retention would be included

Not sure the flames could take Kuzmenko and still retain full 50% on Lindholm, they do not have the cap space.
Capfriendlys trade machine approved the trade with Lindy full retention.
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Ahh nice, yeah let’s trade for more players who don’t want to be here.
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Why would we want Kuzmenko?
he could be

- cap dump to facilitate the trade
- a bounce back candidate to sell at the deadline next year
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Old 01-31-2024, 06:11 PM   #106
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Old 01-31-2024, 06:12 PM   #107
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Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Kuzmenko is going to be chaotic
Possibly the slowest first line in the league
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Old 01-31-2024, 06:13 PM   #108
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.... if not Kuzmenko, it will be picks and prospects???

what?
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Why would we want Kuzmenko?
Because of what else would be coming with him.

The Canucks basically replace his cap hit with Lindholm’s, a far more valuable piece which means they will be paying handsomely to do so.
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wtf does he mean "or"

...I'm going to irrationally panic about a Kuzmenko for Lindholm 1 for 1 deal.
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.... if not Kuzmenko, it will be picks and prospects???

what?
Hopefully they mean "additional" picks and prospects.
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Kuzmenko may be involved, if not it will be picks and prospects. Lindholm to the Canucks. Not complete.
What the hell does is this supposed to mean?
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I don't think it's out of line to say the greater the salary retention the better quality prospect comes back. At full retention for lindholm it better be a top 4 prospect. In my humble opinion. It's a division and regional rival.
Can the Flames retain AND take Kuzmenko?

He's $5.5 AAV
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Ahh nice, yeah let’s trade for more players who don’t want to be here.
There’s probably like 1 player in the league who’d want to be here.
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Not a fan of Kuzmenko, but if it comes with a first and a prospect like Lekkerimaki or Brzustewicz, it’s worth it.
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I do worry that the Flames see Kuzmenko as having positive value...39 goals last year!
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I think the Kuzmenko addition to the deal likely impacts the quality of prospect coming back. As a cap dump. He doesn't have a ton of value for his output this year.
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Sounds like they have a solid plan B if he doesn't waive.
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Old 01-31-2024, 06:15 PM   #119
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I don't mind a deal with Vancouver. We're far removed from the days of the Sedins, Burrows, Bieksa, and Cry Baby Kes.

Yep. I’m all for anything that will hurt the Oilers.
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Because of what else would be coming with him.

The Canucks basically replace his cap hit with Lindholm’s, a far more valuable piece which means they will be paying handsomely to do so.
I am putting my faith in your analysis. I hope you’re right.
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