01-31-2024, 06:10 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Kuzmenko would be a placeholder and likely flipped by the deadline next year. The plan could be to get his value up, then sell high.
If the potential high returns for Lindholm are not there, then it makes sense.
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01-31-2024, 06:10 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Why would we want Kuzmenko?
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01-31-2024, 06:10 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
If Kuzmenko is part of rhe deal I would guess that no retention would be included
Not sure the flames could take Kuzmenko and still retain full 50% on Lindholm, they do not have the cap space.
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Capfriendlys trade machine approved the trade with Lindy full retention.
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01-31-2024, 06:11 PM
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#104
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Ahh nice, yeah let’s trade for more players who don’t want to be here.
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01-31-2024, 06:11 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Why would we want Kuzmenko?
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he could be
- cap dump to facilitate the trade
- a bounce back candidate to sell at the deadline next year
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01-31-2024, 06:11 PM
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#106
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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01-31-2024, 06:12 PM
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#107
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mile
Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Kuzmenko is going to be chaotic
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Possibly the slowest first line in the league
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01-31-2024, 06:13 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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.... if not Kuzmenko, it will be picks and prospects???
what?
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01-31-2024, 06:13 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Why would we want Kuzmenko?
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Because of what else would be coming with him.
The Canucks basically replace his cap hit with Lindholm’s, a far more valuable piece which means they will be paying handsomely to do so.
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01-31-2024, 06:13 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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wtf does he mean "or"
...I'm going to irrationally panic about a Kuzmenko for Lindholm 1 for 1 deal.
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01-31-2024, 06:14 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
.... if not Kuzmenko, it will be picks and prospects???
what?
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Hopefully they mean "additional" picks and prospects.
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01-31-2024, 06:14 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Kuzmenko may be involved, if not it will be picks and prospects. Lindholm to the Canucks. Not complete.
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What the hell does is this supposed to mean?
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01-31-2024, 06:14 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I don't think it's out of line to say the greater the salary retention the better quality prospect comes back. At full retention for lindholm it better be a top 4 prospect. In my humble opinion. It's a division and regional rival.
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Can the Flames retain AND take Kuzmenko?
He's $5.5 AAV
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#114
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
Ahh nice, yeah let’s trade for more players who don’t want to be here.
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There’s probably like 1 player in the league who’d want to be here.
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Not a fan of Kuzmenko, but if it comes with a first and a prospect like Lekkerimaki or Brzustewicz, it’s worth it.
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I do worry that the Flames see Kuzmenko as having positive value...39 goals last year!
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I think the Kuzmenko addition to the deal likely impacts the quality of prospect coming back. As a cap dump. He doesn't have a ton of value for his output this year.
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#118
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: St. Albert
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Sounds like they have a solid plan B if he doesn't waive.
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iggyloob12
I don't mind a deal with Vancouver. We're far removed from the days of the Sedins, Burrows, Bieksa, and Cry Baby Kes.
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Yep. I’m all for anything that will hurt the Oilers.
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01-31-2024, 06:15 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Because of what else would be coming with him.
The Canucks basically replace his cap hit with Lindholm’s, a far more valuable piece which means they will be paying handsomely to do so.
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I am putting my faith in your analysis. I hope you’re right.
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