04-04-2020, 03:29 AM
|
#21
|
Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: at home
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Everyone deserves another chance, including Peters. This is a step towards an inevitable return to the NHL.
|
This. Craig Berube once called Peter Worrell a monkey. Twenty years later he coached his team to the Stanley Cup.
Last edited by playmaker; 04-04-2020 at 03:36 AM.
Reason: typo
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 06:35 AM
|
#22
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
|
Nm
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 06:39 AM
|
#23
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyMike
Is this place in Siberia?
|
No. Siberia is a bit more to the east.
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 06:45 AM
|
#24
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Are you kidding? Its Russia. I think its actually encouraged.
|
There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Pointman For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 11:13 AM
|
#25
|
Crash and Bang Winger
|
I think that Bill Peters has a long, successful coaching career ahead of him. Just not in the NHL.
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 11:50 AM
|
#26
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.
|
You don’t need black people for there to be racism. Sounds like there is some, just directed at different groups.
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Strange Brew For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 11:52 AM
|
#27
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.
Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.
|
99% of people are not thinking that IMO. Saying what he did, to whom he said it, strikes me totally as racism and sign of an unintelligent individual.
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 12:00 PM
|
#28
|
Crash and Bang Winger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.
|
What the hell nonsense is this? Just because there aren't many targets for racism doesn't mean people aren't racist!
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 12:34 PM
|
#29
|
Powerplay Quarterback
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.
Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.
|
What a terrible post. Instead of asking to turn off the music, he went on a racist rant. Don't pretend going on a racist rant is ok. And then not apologizing to the player directly for it. He didn't even have the balls to apologize to Akim in his statement. Sure, he deserves a second chance. But to say someone can go on a rant saying the N word and think it's not racist is just silly.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Jiggy For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 01:35 PM
|
#30
|
Franchise Player
|
Everyone deserves a first chance. Second chances should be earned. I have no insight into what Peters has done since resigning so this isn’t a comment about him.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Reggie Dunlop For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 03:02 PM
|
#32
|
Franchise Player
|
Man, you know you're crappy at hiring coaches when the only coaching job they can get after they leave the Flames is in Russia.
Well, either that or as an assistant in Edmonton, which is even worse.
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 03:23 PM
|
#33
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy
What a terrible post. Instead of asking to turn off the music, he went on a racist rant. Don't pretend going on a racist rant is ok. And then not apologizing to the player directly for it. He didn't even have the balls to apologize to Akim in his statement. Sure, he deserves a second chance. But to say someone can go on a rant saying the N word and think it's not racist is just silly.
|
Have you ever listened to rap music? the "N" word is usually repeated 30 times a song, why is it ok to play that crap in a dressing room full of white hockey players? Peters ranting the "N" word was totally wrong but Akim shouldn't have played it either.
The double standard on the "N" word is tiresome
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 03:34 PM
|
#34
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.
|
I do find it funny that you've equated a lack of races to a lack of racism.
You mean to tell me that all we had to do to conquer racism was eliminate the existence of all those pesky other races. Ethnic cleansing?
Why has nobody thought of this before?
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a Fire Exit. - Mitch Hedberg
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 03:48 PM
|
#35
|
Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Man, you know you're crappy at hiring coaches when the only coaching job they can get after they leave the Flames is in Russia.
Well, either that or as an assistant in Edmonton, which is even worse.
|
I think we all know which is worse.
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 04:15 PM
|
#36
|
First Line Centre
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Have you ever listened to rap music? the "N" word is usually repeated 30 times a song, why is it ok to play that crap in a dressing room full of white hockey players? Peters ranting the "N" word was totally wrong but Akim shouldn't have played it either.
The double standard on the "N" word is tiresome
|
So your take is that this word is actually offensive to white people and it is they who need to be protected from hearing it?
I'm not sure you've thought this one through.
|
|
|
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Major Major For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 04:32 PM
|
#37
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
|
I feel like we've had this conversation before:
-I don't think what he did was racist.
-Ok, it was a dumb thing to say but have you heard how many times the N-word is in rap music? He was kinda asking for it.
-Ok, maybe he wasn't asking for it, but why is he allowed to play music with the N-word? Also, why can't I say the N-word? I think I have the right to be offended by that and determine how that word is used.
-Ok, so it's a derogatory term perpetuated by discrimination towards black people, which has, in turn, been co-opted by that community as a means of defiance and ownership through art and vernacular.
-The music with the word in it made him do it so I still don't think it's racist.
Reset the circle.
__________________
"It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
-Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
|
|
|
04-04-2020, 04:44 PM
|
#38
|
Franchise Player
|
Nword is just lazy...in rap and elsewhere
get some new material
__________________
GFG
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 04:47 PM
|
#39
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.
Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.
|
Your logic is all wrong. He didn’t say turn that music down, he used the N word in a derogatory fashion towards the music a Black hockey player was listening to. How much more racist can you get? I can’t even imagine saying that word around a Black person, Peters said it straight to his face and used the word in a derogatory fashion. It’s blatant racism and I don’t understand how you can say it isn’t
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Beninho For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-04-2020, 04:57 PM
|
#40
|
Franchise Player
|
Bill Peters to coach Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg in the KHL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.
|
Some black athletes? There are countless stories of Non-white soccer players being harassed in a Russia. Peters will fit right in.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Last edited by Beninho; 04-04-2020 at 05:01 PM.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:54 PM.
|
|