Rangers/Blues deal for review

[Jiri Hrdina]

Team: St. Louis Blues



- Stempniak, Lee (RW) NHL

- Reilly, Mike (D) AHL

- Erne, Adam (LW) AHL

- 2018 1st Round Draft Choice (stl)

- 2019 2nd Round Draft Choice (nj)





Team: New York Rangers



- Stone, Mark (RW) NHL

- Tanev, Chris (D) NHL





Terms: STL Owes NYR 2nd round pick in 2020 (STL), 1ST round pick in 2020 (NYI)

New York Rangers sends St. Louis Blues $2.09 million for the 2017-18 season

[DropIt]

The 2019 2nd may have been an autocorrect error. Should read NYI rather than NJ

[manwiches]

Rangers view:

Tanev struggling, and Stone is doing well and was trade bait.

Stempniak is a stop gap, Reilly gives me 4/5/6 D with upside, Erne gives me a depth winger, and the draft picks are obvious.

[savardandjokinen]

Stempniak has a bad contract, and I would pay more for stone

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Terms: STL Owes NYR 2nd round pick in 2020 (STL), 1ST round pick in 2020(NYI)

This may need correcting

Edited to add, I think the 2020 NYI 1st rounder was traded a long time ago, I personally don't see that it should be a dead asset for STL and should be allowed to trade..... Just not the other 2020

That pick may cause a paper trail though

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

This may need correcting

Edited to add, I think the 2020 NYI 1st rounder was traded a long time ago, I personally don't see that it should be a dead asset for STL and should be allowed to trade..... Just not the other 2020

That pick may cause a paper trail though

Agreed. And as soon as the 2020 1st is 'tradeable' in the system than NYi should send it to retire the condition.

[DropIt]

I do have another first round pick in 2019 i could move instead if we want to halt the movement of the NYI pick

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Stempniak has a bad contract, and I would pay more for stone

-2 firsts
-2 seconds
-NHL playing prospect (Reilly)
-Close NHL ready prospect (Erne)
-Playable NHLer with 1 year to eat on a contract with a rebuilding team.

Honestly I felt I was overpaying a bit just to ensure it went through

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by DropIt

-2 firsts
-2 seconds
-NHL playing prospect (Reilly)
-Close NHL ready prospect (Erne)
-Playable NHLer with 1 year to eat on a contract with a rebuilding team.

Honestly I felt I was overpaying a bit just to ensure it went through

I see what you’re saying, and think this deal is fine if approved, I just think the later picks won’t be of high value just due to ratings being of the season before, and people saving prospects in the ECHL.

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I do have another first round pick in 2019 i could move instead if we want to halt the movement of the NYI pick

as well as the other 2020 2nd?

I would change my vote from no to yes if that was the case, I would change it if just the 2nd was corrected. Like I said the last post I can't see punishing STL for not being able to trade that pick

[DropIt]

assuming manwiches was fine incould correct the 2nd in 2020 to a 2nd in 2019. The trade was just submitted and accepted prior to the new rule change

[savardandjokinen]

Oh change my vote to yes. Those picks confused the f out of me. Fair deal

[Jiri Hrdina]

The deal would be far better without Stemp. I view him having large negative value as that contract next year is going to be a real problem at 6.66 and likely a rating that is barely playable at best.

[TurdFerguson]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

The deal would be far better without Stemp. I view him having large negative value as that contract next year is going to be a real problem at 6.66 and likely a rating that is barely playable at best.

Who signed that deal??

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

The deal would be far better without Stemp. I view him having large negative value as that contract next year is going to be a real problem at 6.66 and likely a rating that is barely playable at best.

The deal would become extremely lopsided IMO IF Stempniak wasn't included. I think the package I'm moving reflects in it a price to moving Stempniaks contract.

[JonDuke]

Stone is a young stud. Tanev should re-rate better thaan his current 67.
Stemp and his contract are junk, and hurts the Rangers next year, but they're in rebuild mode.
With the 4 x top 56 picks and 2 prospects, think it's a decent return and vote yes.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by DropIt

assuming manwiches was fine incould correct the 2nd in 2020 to a 2nd in 2019. The trade was just submitted and accepted prior to the new rule change

Yes, i'm good with that.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I'll reject this one but only so the GMs can re-submit with the non 2020 picks. That re-submitted deal won't have to go to vote