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Pass it! 12 57.14%
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Old 02-02-2018, 09:44 PM   #21
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^ Would you say yes if I added a third-rounder this year
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Old 02-02-2018, 09:46 PM   #22
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How much would a guy like Yandle realistically get in a grid? Would it be more than as a UFA? Those are questions to consider
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:32 AM   #23
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This deal stinks. I would much rather a good 2018 2nd than a 2019 and jerks.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:17 AM   #24
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Still time for the NO voters to reject this crap!

Do it for manwishes! He can do better.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:34 AM   #25
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Personally I think the lines are far too blurred when it comes to voting on trades.

I thought the process was designed to protect new GMs from lopsided deals, likely as a result of being new to the rules or not understanding the ratings systems. Instead it seems to be far more of a jury panel that nitpicks any aspect of the trade they deem to be weighted in favour of the veteran GM. I've read quite a few posts over the past season or two that say something along the lines of "It's not bad but I think he could get more, so I voted no.", which is not how I think any trade should be viewed in a voting process.

The voting process should be as impartial as possible, If you think he could get more that's fine, and feel free to voice that opinion but it isn't your team, isn't your trade. The difference here became essentially and 2nd+Josh Jooris instead of a 2nd... That is a far too specific line in the sand IMO
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:20 AM   #26
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We never specified how people should vote. The main point was by scaling it to the entire league instead of just a handful of us you would control for some of that arbitrary subjective ness.
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:38 AM   #27
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Umm... so fwiw, I知 still a bit green here. Sorry to ruffle feathers. It seemed like a good deal to me, but obviously I致e divided the thoughts here.


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Old 02-03-2018, 12:08 PM   #28
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Now if someone or a few can explain to me why this is a worse deal, that would be greatly appreciated.

I get 2 NHL ready guys for a bottom 6/4 def and forward. I get my 2nd, even though it痴 a low one. And I get a prospect. A second in my mind, is still a lottery, regardless if it came from MJk or Scorpion. I still have to wait for my draft pick to pan out anyways, correct? And a second can be a hit or miss.

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Old 02-03-2018, 01:36 PM   #29
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we need four more votes to pass this and seven to reject

seems fairly divisive but I'm open to adding to this, manwiches -- hoping you'll engage in discussions again if it fails
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Old 02-03-2018, 02:03 PM   #30
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Tampa is not far out of the playoffs, their pick could end up being a playoff pick and they could go a d’un (as could anyone). Colorado’s pick is next year, so they could get better or worse, that’s still to be seen. I don’t see how a 2019 2nd is different than 2018 other than the unpredictability, but I don’t think these picks are much different.

Claesson and Jooris can both fill a role on the Rangers for the next few years as they will need depth and they fit the bill.

I was on the fence about the last deal, but I think this deal is a definite pass
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Old 02-03-2018, 02:44 PM   #31
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Vote is actually 9-6 right now, manwiches voted again.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:19 PM   #32
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My overall take on the deal would be that for the most part in the CPHL 4th liners and depth players aren't worth much from an asset POV. They are easily acquired or signed. So all things being equal I'd rather have the more near-term 2nd.

But it isn't a horrible deal either way and if you like the guys you are getting - feel good about it and on to the next one!
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:11 PM   #33
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When are you putting the cutoff on this, Jiri, should neither side get to thirteen votes?
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:20 AM   #34
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I votes yes last time. I figured that a 2nd was a fair enough deal. I'll vote yes on this one.
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:26 AM   #35
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pass
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:29 AM   #36
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Excellent. Thanks for the deal, Rangers!
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