06-29-2017, 08:27 PM
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#1341
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Have people suggesting Beauchemin been watching him play much over the last 2 years? He USED to be good but his game has deteriorated massively and he can barely even skate anymore (think Wideman).
Beauchemin is done. Don't want. Let him be.
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06-29-2017, 08:40 PM
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#1342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Bennett - $2.75m
Lazar - $1m
Ferland - $2.0m
Kulak - $0.9m
Chiasson - cya
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06-29-2017, 09:26 PM
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#1343
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)
You had already quoted my post and responded to it, now two pages later you quote it again and are suddenly pissed off at how ridiculous my opinion is because people agreed with it and thanked my post?
I think calling Stajan a "good forth line player" is an exaggeration on his abilities. He, in my opinion, is an average forth line player at best. Hence why I feel he is overrated. Now if you disagree with my assessment, thats too bad for you. No need to get all riled up over an aging 4th liner who will be gone in a year.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
meh, i could call you a goof for disagreeing with my opinion but i'll refrain ...
i don't think stajan is all that skilled, and the little that he had seems to have depleted over the years (it takes the guy roughly 5 grade A chances missed before he can pot one)... He's slow, he gets rag dolled a ton. Frankly, i don't think i'd be able to tell if he were replaced by hamilton as the 4th line C, other than the few million in cap space suddenly available.
There is likely an off ice/intangible element here, but i don't think any of us have any way to actually validate or measure its impact on this group (just like we can't really measure whether Brouwer had much impact in this dept last year).
Not here to just bash stajan, but if i'm a goof for thanking a post questioning stajan's hockey value, thought i'd chime in.
again, just my opinion. you are welcome to yours.
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I just think your opinion about Stajan being as bad as you believe he's been was not very correct because I think it short changes him by a fair bit, which is why I responded to it twice, and the 2nd time why I responded the way I did.
Now obviously I didn't have to respond in that way, but I'm not sorry about it either because I think it was not such an accurate opinion (which is why I had called your opinion silly and why I refer to the people who thank or agree with that as goofs).
It is what it is. But yes, I'll agree to disagree on it and be relieved about the fact that those massive Bouma & Stajan contracts will be history after this year at worst.
As it is, there's probably a good chance that neither Bouma nor Stajan will be in the NHL anymore at all after the conclusion of this season.
Last edited by Karl; 06-29-2017 at 09:34 PM.
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06-29-2017, 09:37 PM
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#1344
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC
What makes you so sure a player that couldn't crack our top 7 this season will be a #5 next season
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Because sometimes something Clicks. Why was Calgary's current 26 minute a night first pairing Captain not drafted? Too many are too quick to assume someone will be great forever, on the fringe forever, or terrible forever.
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06-29-2017, 10:11 PM
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#1345
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memphusk
Because sometimes something Clicks. Why was Calgary's current 26 minute a night first pairing Captain not drafted? Too many are too quick to assume someone will be great forever, on the fringe forever, or terrible forever.
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I hope Treliving has a better plan for our 5D than just hoping something clicks for Kulak. It's a bonus when the stars align and someone unexpectedly jumps up the depth chart but it's another thing to rely on wishful thinking.
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06-29-2017, 10:21 PM
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#1346
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Self-Retired
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Was catching up over the last 6 or 7 pages from throughout the day and found these gems.
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I doubt Versteeg will be back.
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Damn Flash, if only you had waited a few more hours, heh
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Neal was taken by Vegas and trotted out on draft night (like MAF and Engelland), which they wouldn't do if he was going to be moved.
As for McNabb, physical is fine, but 2 goals is not. He's a fourth liner at best, and we already have Hathaway who can do what he does if need be on that line.
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Nope and..... Nope..
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
You're partially correct, although it was McNabb trotted out and not Neal. He'd be the perfect fit for our bottom pairing but as you said about Neal, for those reasons McNabb is not likely moved.
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nope..
Made me laugh, needed the chuckle. Cheers!
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06-29-2017, 10:53 PM
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#1347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IgiTang
Was catching up over the last 6 or 7 pages from throughout the day and found these gems.
Damn Flash, if only you had waited a few more hours, heh
Nope and..... Nope..
nope..
Made me laugh, needed the chuckle. Cheers!
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06-29-2017, 11:02 PM
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#1348
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IgiTang
Was catching up over the last 6 or 7 pages from throughout the day and found these gems.
Damn Flash, if only you had waited a few more hours, heh
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No kidding. Did not foresee Versteeg signing below 2 mil OR less than 2 years. Wrong on both counts. Very, very good deal for the Flames.
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06-29-2017, 11:19 PM
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#1349
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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TSN was doing a quick preview of free agency for Canadian teams. Button said he thinks the flames should sign Justin Williams. Didn't suggest it was likely, just that he thinks it'd be a good fit.
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06-29-2017, 11:31 PM
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#1350
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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06-30-2017, 08:47 AM
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#1351
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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On Fan 960 this am GG says Flames are still looking for possible RHS forward, who can take some draws as well. Bottom six winger also a consideration. But admits the ranks in free agency are getting thin.
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06-30-2017, 08:49 AM
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#1352
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Franchise Player
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Unless we are adding a top line RHS forward, i'd prefer we have a spot open in camp for one of our prospects to take.
I want to see the competition and upward pressure to keep our vets honest
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06-30-2017, 08:54 AM
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#1353
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Unless we are adding a top line RHS forward, i'd prefer we have a spot open in camp for one of our prospects to take.
I want to see the competition and upward pressure to keep our vets honest
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Justin Williams or Tommy Wingels fit those credentials.
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06-30-2017, 08:54 AM
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#1354
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudfather
On Fan 960 this am GG says Flames are still looking for possible RHS forward, who can take some draws as well.
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Sounds like Patrick Sharp.
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06-30-2017, 08:57 AM
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#1355
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Franchise Player
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Iggy is a right hand shot and good on draws...
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06-30-2017, 09:00 AM
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#1356
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Sounds like Patrick Sharp.
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Sounds like Iggy to me...
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06-30-2017, 09:01 AM
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#1357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I think the Flames could be looking at Williams, Sharp, and maybe Marleau. The FAN has been poo pooing the thought of Iginla coming back
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06-30-2017, 09:11 AM
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#1359
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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RH shot that can take faceoffs has to be Stafford or Williams IMO.
Other options would be Gagner, or Mike Fisher but those seem very unlikely to me.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 06-30-2017 at 09:16 AM.
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06-30-2017, 09:12 AM
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#1360
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Stajan!
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