[Signing] John Carlson Re-Signs With Capitals, $8M × 8 Years

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From Bob McKenzie on Twitter.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Cha Ching.

[dammage79]

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Carlson has $2 million in signing bonus money for 2020-21 and another $2 million for 2022-23, the potential lockout seasons. Likely not as much as agent Rick Curran would have wanted for those 2 years but the same as Oshie/Kuznetsov also got for those 2 same years ($2 M SB)

[Poe969]

8 mil??? yikes, seems like an overpayment

[dammage79]

I mean I am not surprised. It's what happens when you go beast mode to a stanley cup win.

[btimbit]

Lol I figured it would be similiar to the Burns deal but didn't guess it would be the same.

Wonder if there's a NTC or NMC

[Erick Estrada]

$8 million contracts are becoming more common so while it's a lot of money he probably could have got that on the market although if I was the Caps I would have been looking for a bit of a discount because of the 8th year. Looking at his career stats I feel he's going to be a 30 point guy for most of this deal which is al little frighting.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Poe969

8 mil??? yikes, seems like an overpayment

My thoughts too but, that's what one really good year can get you. He lucked out and it was his contract year. 15 goals 53 assists this year. This blows the door open for Karlsson and Doughty now.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Damn, this seems pretty expensive to me. Although I'm not the biggest Carlson fan.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Washington Capitals - Getting Defensemen PAID since 2005.

[Geeoff]

Seems about market value to me. Doughty and Karlsson are going to get at least 10.

[Enoch Root]

wow, Stanley Cup bonus. Good for him, but tough to build good teams around contracts like that.

I would sure as hell rather have Hamilton at $5.75M than Carlsson at $8M. I know, UFA, just saying - you still have to pay it and build a roster.

The Flames, with no contracts over $6.75M, and a very young core, mostly locked up, are in a really, really good position going forward.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

wow, Stanley Cup bonus. Good for him, but tough to build good teams around contracts like that.

I would sure as hell rather have Hamilton at $5.75M than Carlsson at $8M. I know, UFA, just saying - you still have to pay it and build a roster.

The Flames, with no contracts over $6.75M, and a very young core, mostly locked up, are in a really, really good position going forward.

Kind of, except we also don't have a contending core at least in part to not having the top end talent necessary. Great value contracts are great and all but I'd rather have at least one $8-$10 guy that's worth it because he's that big of a gamebreaker.

*Not referring to Carlson btw, just to your assertion that we're looking really good because everyone is under $6.75

[TheoFleury]

^Gaudreau would be a 9-10m guy if he was signing a ufa contract

[Oling_Roachinen]

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...ostcount=11941

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I think Carlson's in line to be the next massively paid UFA (and in my opinion bust). He nearly doubled his points from the previous season to lead all defensemen in scoring (while playing the PP with Ovechkin). He's now playing 27 minutes a night on a playoff team that got to, at least, the conference final. Everything is working out perfectly for him to score in big time during this free agency. Especially as there's no real quality "plan b" for teams.

In fact, the second highest scoring UFA defenseman is his former teammate, Mike Green. Green's coming off a 6M/year contract that he signed after putting up 45 points on the same team that Carlson just put up 68 points on.

Burns signed an 8M/year contract...until he is 40. Carlson is 28, a 7 year contract for him will be entirely during 'prime years'.

If he simply chases money (and that may depend on if he gets the Cup or not), I think the hockey world will be surprised at the contract value.

My post a little bit over a month ago. Actually surprised it's only 8M. Contracts keep going up for high end players and it seems like people are always surprised when they see the numbers. With a salary cap of 79.5M, the salary cap has officially doubled since it first started. Players like Iginla who were making 7M a year in the early days of the cap would be taking up the same cap with 14M a year contracts.

Burns signed a contract that was 8M/year. Carlson just signed after leading all defenseman in scoring. He was going to get paid.

And while you can argue that Burns was putting up almost 30 goals as reasons for his cap hit, people seem to overlook that Burns' contract goes until he is 40! If he was signed until he was even a modest 36, his cap hit would have been 10M.

Whether or not it will work out for Washington, I am skeptical, but it was obvious he could have got 8M+ on the free market.

[DoubleK]

Does Doughty get 10?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Does Doughty get 10?

Almost certainly. The cap has risen significantly, but when it comes to top tier players it's been a while that they have been making 10M+ in actual money.

Crosby averages over 10.5M a year until he's 35.
Parise averages over 10M a year until he's 35.
Weber averages 11M a year until he's 35.
Suter averages 10M a year until he's 35.
Ovechkin, going forward, makes 10M a year now until he's 35. He signed his contract in 2008 with a cap-hit of 9.5M+.
Lundqvist makes over 10M a year until he's 35.
Kane and Toews make 10.5M a year.
Kopitar averages over 10M a year until he's 35.
Burns is making 10M a year until he's 35 and signed until he's 39.
Benn makes 9.5M a year.
Subban makes 9M a year despite signing while still an RFA.
Price makes 10.5M a year.


Throw in RFA second contracts like Eichel and McDavid and it's pretty obvious that Doughty will get 10M.

The best thing the Kings have going for them is that Kopitar is making 10M and that may be a soft-limit for them as the captain that Doughty might be willing to sign for. But if he wanted money, he could reach UFA and get 12M without any GM blinking an eye.

[FanIn80]

This makes Hamilton at $5.57M for the next 3 seasons look like an absolute steal.

[The Yen Man]

Still signed for less as a UFA and coming off a Stanley Cup vs. Drasaitl coming out of his ELC lol.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

This makes Hamilton at $5.57M for the next 3 seasons look like an absolute steal.

Or Hanifin at possible 4M a steal.