I assume those statements are written by their agents or PR people.
Assuming so, you’d just think that with the sheer number of cases coming out in a small amount of time then their PR people would be aware of everything sounding the exact same, and thus, fake.
I get that it’s part of the machine, but it sucks.
speaking with my wife about the swing in the pendulum from ignoring victims to believing them and taking action.
being a woman and also having been a HR manager, she has a perspective I can never have.
She agrees in some cases the punishment seems extreme for an allegation but sometimes in a revolution it happens. Women are finally getting believed, getting supported and the perps are getting justice not further rewards.
she also noted that in the vast majority of cases, it wasn't a one time error in judgment but a long term pattern of behaviour.
my wife also thinks lena dunham is a self absorbed, hypocritical, piece of crap who should never again have a platform to be heard.
she thinks that NY post column nailed it.
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The thing that is starting to bug me about this, seen in the recent Lauer and Simmons apologies, is the need to tie it back to themselves. Maybe it relates to the powerful narcissist thing we’ve been talking about, but my god, I’m sick of hearing about these people talk about whatever journey to being a better person they’re about to embark on. It’s so phoney and contrived.
The focus of any statement where you admit to wrong doing should be the apology, on top of that, maybe some recognition that you need to be better. But I don’t care if it’s now your “full time job” or that you are now going to focus on your not-for-profit and spend time “learning, healing, and listening.”
These people are awful, it’s so obviously fake and still just about them.
If they make no mention of how they are going to change or attempt to make things better then their apology will be chewed up as being hollow. But if they attempt to make it right then they'll diminish some of the damage headed their way.
If you get a chance to catch today's Morning Joe, it's a good one. Joe goes off on the Matt Lauer stuff, including the rumours he'd heard about the guy's behaviour.
In a way, NBC's handling of this is the most honest and transparent I've seen so far, but it's kind of wild watching people who knew and were friends and colleagues of a guy talk all morning about what they knew about him and how they feel about it. Must be brutal for Lauer, who I imagine isn't tuning in. A bit different than just having the story reported on and discussed by strangers in comments pages.
Please make sure that you rub onions on your eyes before you speak to the press, its probably preferable that you do this via written statement instead as your friends at XYZ-Superstar PR can make sure that they write it to make you the victim
NSFW!
Ahem
(Again translation provided)
I'm sorry that I got caught doing obscene things to girls under the guise of "Career Counseling". At the time that I was offering to drop my pants to help your career by you either servicing me, or watching while I was servicing myself, I believed that I had my own best interests at heart.
I mean fellas, these hollywood girls are hot, and if you have cash, or power or whatever you can pretty much make them do anything that you want.
I don't understand why everyone is so surprised that I am a complete pig, I mean come on everyone knew that sexual crimes are usually more based in power then in sex, and frankly I'm the most powerful man around.
But anyways back to my apology.
I'm sorry please forgive me . . . for getting caught. I'm not sorry for what I actually did, and this is those dumb b%%ches faults for ratting me out. I mean I tried to give them what they wanted, a little hush money, a better job, or even the chance to be around me every day after I violated them. This is frankly their fault that I'm in the spot that I'm in. If they didn't dress like provocative whores with neon signs that said property property property.
I also want to apologize to my friends, not because I embarrassed them, but because of those nights where we all bragged about the girls that we banged and high fived each other that we didn't have the fore sight to see that someday our little sicko sexual kingdoms would come tumbling down. So I apologize in advance to you for the embarrassment that your about to reap when your all outed.
I'd also like to apologize to my wife and kids, I have to say this because it makes me look more sympathetic according to my PR firm (Pause to wipe eyes to a count of 5). But frankly I've hated my wife for a while, and she no longer takes the time to shove a pineapple up by butt while watching a 17 year old hooker go to town. Also she's put on a bunch of weight and acts like I'm not he center of the universe, so really this is her fault, and I had to write her a half million dollar check to stand up here and offer her support (Wife X dabs her eyes with a tissue.
I also want to apologize to my kids, I mean sure after I did that 17 year old unpaid intern I went home and bragged about it with my son and we had a nice moment of high fivings and closeness. And my daughter who's probably going to grow up to be a ho like the girls that I locked in the office. But frankly I'm only apologizing to my kids because I have to. Frankly those little boat anchor money vacuums made me happy when they were old enough to go to private school in Switzerland where I don't have to look at those ungrateful faces.
I know I have a lot to fix. I'm going to go away to get help for my sexual issues and find a way to become a better person. My treatment will include long days on the beach, massages by twin teenage girls and all the coke and liquor I can handle because I'm rich and people will believe me when I say that I'm going to get better because I lie extremely well.
I hope to one day gain your trust and gain back my position of power so that I can go right back to being an inappropriate ditch pig.
Celebrity-X OUUTTIE
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If you get a chance to catch today's Morning Joe, it's a good one. Joe goes off on the Matt Lauer stuff, including the rumours he'd heard about the guy's behaviour.
In a way, NBC's handling of this is the most honest and transparent I've seen so far, but it's kind of wild watching people who knew and were friends and colleagues of a guy talk all morning about what they knew about him and how they feel about it. Must be brutal for Lauer, who I imagine isn't tuning in. A bit different than just having the story reported on and discussed by strangers in comments pages.
I wonder what's going to come out about Joe. There has been rumours of him being involved in the death of a intern but all I have seen is rumour and don't know the situation that well.
I wonder what's going to come out about Joe. There has been rumours of him being involved in the death of a intern but all I have seen is rumour and don't know the situation that well.
Did you even bother to read anything about that story? He wasn't even in Florida when she died. Talk about spreading fake news.
Why am I not surprised? This problem seem to stretch across all types of media. I feel like this isn't slowing down and we are going to see academia start to come into focus after the media.
John Doyle at the Globe & Mail has a good take on this:
Celebrity attracts narcissistic people. And narcissistic people, once they're accorded high status and have their every appetite indulged, can become pretty monstrous. Normal sexual acts and status become mundane. New horizons are sought.
Really, power corrupts. It's one of the most common themes in art.
I wonder how wide spread this is. If it is, we could just be seeing the really bad guys getting rid of the competition. Not that I am defending those who have already been accused, but there could be people who are not only guilty of sexual assault themselves but also blackmail behind many of these accusations coming to light.
Why am I not surprised? This problem seem to stretch across all types of media. I feel like this isn't slowing down and we are going to see academia start to come into focus after the media.
Funny that everyone is guilty and faces consequences excepting Republicans.
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This whole entire situation is getting very interesting very quickly and I really don't know where or when it will stop or correct itself. I will be the first to admit that a huge chunk of these cases and things I have witnessed personally fall into the scumbag category for a lot of these guys. I pride myself on being a gentleman in all ways but some of the stuff I am reading about some of these cases and conversations revolve around some fairly mundane and normal talk. I have heard things such as making a romantic advance, making a comment about one's appearance or even being overheard making a comment to a work colleague or friend is becoming grounds for dismissal.
I just don't know at which point this will end because the truth of the matter every single person in a workplace environment is guilty, end of story and that includes men and women. How far as a society do we want to take this? Let's make sure that we are apply the standards evenly across the board too between men and women, not just the scumbag stuff the guys are doing that wouldn't be tolerated at all.
If the lead female anchor on a national news broadcast is ever caught making any sort of comment or sex joke or reference to someone's appearance or clothing, are we going to demand that they are fired?
Will a hard working female bank executive need to be packaged out to the tune of a few million dollars in severance because some young guy got worked up and offended that she comment on his suit and tie?
At the end of the day if two guys sitting around a workplace lunchroom shooting the breeze and if they are overheard discussing the new "hottie" that was hired, well they are going to need to be fired and than kicked to the curb. The same standard will need to be applied to the ladies of the office as well.
Anybody notice how often Canada's Prime Minister's looks and sexiness is brought up? He seems to relish it to be honest and good on him. How acceptable would it have been for people to gush over the attractive Rona Ambrose who lead the Conservative Party?
Just interesting times! Before anybody roasts me, I am fully aware that a lot of the allegations are BAD, guys exposing themselves, non stop touching of colleagues and other sorts of perverted stuff. I am talking about the stuff that everybody is guilty of like the appearance talk, perhaps making a joke or emailing a joke to someone, asking out a colleague on a date and than finding out it was unwanted and other general workplace issues. Were all vulnerable!!
So what's an actual example of someone getting fired or railroaded for something mundane? The examples we've seen have been pretty serious. I don't know if this phenomenon needs to be corrected. I think it needs to expand. The learning has been really great so far.
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This whole entire situation is getting very interesting very quickly and I really don't know where or when it will stop or correct itself. I will be the first to admit that a huge chunk of these cases and things I have witnessed personally fall into the scumbag category for a lot of these guys. I pride myself on being a gentleman in all ways but some of the stuff I am reading about some of these cases and conversations revolve around some fairly mundane and normal talk. I have heard things such as making a romantic advance, making a comment about one's appearance or even being overheard making a comment to a work colleague or friend is becoming grounds for dismissal.
I just don't know at which point this will end because the truth of the matter every single person in a workplace environment is guilty, end of story and that includes men and women. How far as a society do we want to take this? Let's make sure that we are apply the standards evenly across the board too between men and women, not just the scumbag stuff the guys are doing that wouldn't be tolerated at all.
If the lead female anchor on a national news broadcast is ever caught making any sort of comment or sex joke or reference to someone's appearance or clothing, are we going to demand that they are fired?
Will a hard working female bank executive need to be packaged out to the tune of a few million dollars in severance because some young guy got worked up and offended that she comment on his suit and tie?
At the end of the day if two guys sitting around a workplace lunchroom shooting the breeze and if they are overheard discussing the new "hottie" that was hired, well they are going to need to be fired and than kicked to the curb. The same standard will need to be applied to the ladies of the office as well.
Anybody notice how often Canada's Prime Minister's looks and sexiness is brought up? He seems to relish it to be honest and good on him. How acceptable would it have been for people to gush over the attractive Rona Ambrose who lead the Conservative Party?
Just interesting times! Before anybody roasts me, I am fully aware that a lot of the allegations are BAD, guys exposing themselves, non stop touching of colleagues and other sorts of perverted stuff. I am talking about the stuff that everybody is guilty of like the appearance talk, perhaps making a joke or emailing a joke to someone, asking out a colleague on a date and than finding out it was unwanted and other general workplace issues. Were all vulnerable!!
This is just hysteria. No one is dismissed for cause over compliments or a few offensive jokes. Although the media might treat these issues of sexual harassment in the workplace as something new and revolutionary, courts, labour arbitrators, and human rights tribunals have been considering these issues for years and years. There is a large body of law regarding what sort of misconduct will constitute cause for dismissal.
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This whole entire situation is getting very interesting very quickly and I really don't know where or when it will stop or correct itself. I will be the first to admit that a huge chunk of these cases and things I have witnessed personally fall into the scumbag category for a lot of these guys. I pride myself on being a gentleman in all ways but some of the stuff I am reading about some of these cases and conversations revolve around some fairly mundane and normal talk. I have heard things such as making a romantic advance, making a comment about one's appearance or even being overheard making a comment to a work colleague or friend is becoming grounds for dismissal.
I just don't know at which point this will end because the truth of the matter every single person in a workplace environment is guilty, end of story and that includes men and women. How far as a society do we want to take this? Let's make sure that we are apply the standards evenly across the board too between men and women, not just the scumbag stuff the guys are doing that wouldn't be tolerated at all.
If the lead female anchor on a national news broadcast is ever caught making any sort of comment or sex joke or reference to someone's appearance or clothing, are we going to demand that they are fired?
Will a hard working female bank executive need to be packaged out to the tune of a few million dollars in severance because some young guy got worked up and offended that she comment on his suit and tie?
At the end of the day if two guys sitting around a workplace lunchroom shooting the breeze and if they are overheard discussing the new "hottie" that was hired, well they are going to need to be fired and than kicked to the curb. The same standard will need to be applied to the ladies of the office as well.
Anybody notice how often Canada's Prime Minister's looks and sexiness is brought up? He seems to relish it to be honest and good on him. How acceptable would it have been for people to gush over the attractive Rona Ambrose who lead the Conservative Party?
Just interesting times! Before anybody roasts me, I am fully aware that a lot of the allegations are BAD, guys exposing themselves, non stop touching of colleagues and other sorts of perverted stuff. I am talking about the stuff that everybody is guilty of like the appearance talk, perhaps making a joke or emailing a joke to someone, asking out a colleague on a date and than finding out it was unwanted and other general workplace issues. Were all vulnerable!!
That's not what's happening though. Nearly every single one of these instances is backed up by multiple victims and what appears to be prior common knowledge. A bad joke or a side comment might draw attention, but nobody is getting their careers burnt to the ground because a single line cross.
As for the Trudeau thing, if you're a woman in politics it's far more likely people will talk about your looks than your policies.