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Old 10-03-2023, 12:26 PM   #361
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depends whether you define smallest as shortest or lightest - IMO, weight is more important than height for the NHL
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:27 PM   #362
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Phillips is listed at 5'8", 160 ... Nathan Gerbe was listed at 5'4", 176. Definitely not the smallest in league history.
Iím talking weight.
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Paul Byron 5'9 164 lbs. So really close. And byron carved a career in bottom 6 grinding like roles. Just retired actually.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:32 PM   #364
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Yamamoto is listed at 153; Ennis at 160. And then a bunch of old guys like Aurel Joliat were down in the 130-140 range.

It certainly isn't unheard of, and it's gradually becoming more common again, but there was definitely a period of time in the 80s and 90s where a guy like Phillips would've been expected to be like 30-40 pounds heavier to even stand a chance. Not so much today.
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Paul Byron 5'9 164 lbs. So really close. And byron carved a career in bottom 6 grinding like roles. Just retired actually.
Thatís why itís tougher for Phillips. He is top 6 or bust imo.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:39 PM   #366
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Phillips is pretty small though ...

I mean Pelletier isn't big but in this picture he looks to have 4 inches on the guy not 1

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Paul Byron 5'9 164 lbs. So really close. And byron carved a career in bottom 6 grinding like roles. Just retired actually.
Retired after not playing a full year and missing a half year before that due to injuries. 30 hit him hard.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:40 PM   #368
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Pelletier was standing on a ladder!
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Phillips is pretty small though ...

I mean Pelletier isn't big but in this picture he looks to have 4 inches on the guy not 1

Yeah, the NHL site still has him listed at 5’7 and 140. So might be somewhere in the middle of Scorps stats
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:43 PM   #370
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Phillips is definitely the better skater.
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Old 10-03-2023, 03:48 PM   #371
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Phillips is listed at 5'8", 160 ... Nathan Gerbe was listed at 5'4", 176. Definitely not the smallest in league history.
I don't think he's either. Or wasn't last summer (2022) when I saw him working out at the Seven Chiefs Sportsplex during that year's development camp. You've likely seen more of him, though.
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Old 10-03-2023, 03:49 PM   #372
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I'm not angry and I don't know if you're misreading me. I am just saying that more onus should be placed on the original agitators than somebody like Scorpion who is absolutely not looking for conflict but has more nuanced opinions.
You call people #######s when you're in your happy place?
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Old 10-03-2023, 03:51 PM   #373
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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Phillips' measurements are inflated a bit but then again, I would expect everyone's are. Kind of have to go with what we're given and then subtract 15-20 from each.

Phillips might be 140, but Yamamoto might be 135.
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Yamamoto is listed at 153; Ennis at 160. And then a bunch of old guys like Aurel Joliat were down in the 130-140 range.
Joliat's time is irrelevant. People were smaller then and hockey, not being a big business, did not get the best athletic talent.

There was a player in those days who was nicknamed ‘Moose’ because he attained the huge size of (going from memory) 5'11" and 200 lbs. Nowadays, that's just an average NHLer.

As for Phillips and Coronato: If you go by the numbers on hockey-reference.com and nhl.com, Coronato is three inches taller and 43 pounds heavier. They're not even close in size.
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:14 PM   #375
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I'm looking on the NHL app under the Capitals roster right now and Philips is listed at 5'7" and 140lbs.
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The NHL measurements are still from the 2016 draft combine. The AHL has updated its figures every year — they measured him last year at 5'8", 160, down from 165 the previous year.
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The NHL measurements are still from the 2016 draft combine. The AHL has updated its figures every year ó they measured him last year at 5'8", 160, down from 165 the previous year.
Ah thanks for the clarification, was not aware
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Wow this thread has become stupid. If you don't like the Phillips content, avoid the Phillips thread. It'd not rocket science.
Not sure if this was directed at me, but for clarity I am definitely not saying people should not be discussing Phillips. I.am watching how his situation turns out myself and rooting for him.

I just find it odd that there is so much focus on something potentially negative when there is a lot of positive to discuss with a guy like Coronato, and frankly it's something we haven't seen in a while out of a prospect. It's been pretty quiet on that front around here until today
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:51 PM   #379
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The NHL measurements are still from the 2016 draft combine. The AHL has updated its figures every year ó they measured him last year at 5'8", 160, down from 165 the previous year.
Jeezus, I was 165lbs when I was 18 years old AND 6'1". Man, I must have been really skinny!
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For sure.

Flames fans on a Flames message board giving a #### about a Flames drafted player who lead the Flames' farm team in scoring for 3 consecutive years.

Very weird thing for Flames fans to do, indeed.
Heís gone, not coming back, I donít understand why anyone would waste the time and energy to follow a guy whoís a huge long shot. More free time than me I guess.
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