Friedman's 31 thoughts Dec 4 - Flames laughed off lowball offers for Bennett

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I doubt that gets anything close to done. Pulijarvi isn't anything but a reclamation project, Yamamoto is starting to look like an undersized bust. The first doesn't have that much value while the Oilers are hot.


I would expect that the Devils starting point would be Bouchard and and the first.



As well 8 m on an extension, basically Hall is going to wait for free agency because his agent knows they'll be a huge bidding war for him.

Yup. The Framework is the Mark Stone trade.

So the equivalent of that would be Bouchard/Broberg, Roster Player (Sheahan), 2nd.

And since I feel like Hall might be worth a little more since people tend to value offense over 200ft play that the 2nd would likely actually have to be a 1st. Especially since the Oilers would also need the Devils to take cap back.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by the2bears

I just don't think Hall would be at all interested in signing with Edmonton again.

He is good friends with McDavid. There are rumours out there about the oilers and jersey trading to get him back to Edmonton. In my opinion, he would jump at the chance to play with McDavid.

[Spinach]

That can't have possibly meant Puljujarvi straight up for Lias Andersson, could it?

Also, the Flames trading what could be a high pick or high picks for Hall is ridiculous. Even if this team were playing like last year's (pre-All Star break), where would he slot in? Behind Gaudreau & Tkachuk? LW is the last thing the Flames need.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Spinach

That can't have possibly meant Puljujarvi straight up for Lias Andersson, could it?

Also, the Flames trading what could be a high pick or high picks for Hall is ridiculous. Even if this team were playing like last year's (pre-All Star break), where would he slot in? Behind Gaudreau & Tkachuk? LW is the last thing the Flames need.

It's probably pretty close value. They are only 5 months apart in age and Puljujarvi has actually shown more in North America than Andersson.

Not like Lias has been dominating at the NHL level or even shown very much at the NHL level.

That's actually a swap that would have made sense as a change of scenery move for both guys, while the drafting team still gets a guy that had top 10 pick value in the draft year.

[Gaskal]

This isn't the first time shots have been fired across the bows of GMs through the media, after an insulting offer was made. We've seen it when Dougie was still here and this is likely close to what the reply was for the lowball offers on Sam.

Burke on rumors: "People have no goddamn idea what they're talking about"

This is one where we think we can trace the leak. We got a call, our GM got a call, Brad Treliving is the GM. (Tre) got a call from a team, who shall remain nameless, at least for now - if this goes on much further I'm probably not going to remain nameless - and said 'Would you move Dougie Hamilton?' and Tre said no ...

So we told this team - and by the way, the offer they made was insulting. we told the team, 'No we're not moving him, and next time you have an idea that stupid, just save the quarter, don't go to the payphone.' That team started telling teams, 'Yeah, we made an offer on Hamilton.' Now it's a rumour, it's got legs. Someone's like, 'Well, they must be moving him.'

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

This isn't the first time shots have been fired across the bows of GMs through the media, after an insulting offer was made. We've seen it when Dougie was still here and this is likely close to what the reply was for the lowball offers on Sam.

Burke on rumors: "People have no goddamn idea what they're talking about"

Yeah that rumor of Flames moving Hamilton had no merit at all.

GM's aren't going to admit a player's name comes up in trade discussions. The louder they protest...

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

He is good friends with McDavid. There are rumours out there about the oilers and jersey trading to get him back to Edmonton. In my opinion, he would jump at the chance to play with McDavid.

No doubt he would jump at the chance to play with McLotto .... for the last half of the season so he can rack up the points and cash in as a UFA. Some moron GM is going to offer Hall 9-10M, the oilers can't afford that but I hope they do.

[Fan in Exile]

, 'No we're not moving him, and next time you have an idea that stupid, just save the quarter, don't go to the payphone.' That team started telling teams, 'Yeah, we made an offer on Hamilton.' Now it's a rumour, it's got legs. Someone's like, 'Well, they must be moving him.'

Sounds like a prank call to Tre. Why else would the payphone be used?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Spinach

That can't have possibly meant Puljujarvi straight up for Lias Andersson, could it?

Also, the Flames trading what could be a high pick or high picks for Hall is ridiculous. Even if this team were playing like last year's (pre-All Star break), where would he slot in? Behind Gaudreau & Tkachuk? LW is the last thing the Flames need.

I think the Flames are in dire need of higher end RH forwards, but I have a feeling one of those 3 top-end LW could slip to RW without losing much.

I’d actually like to see Johnny tried more on the right side. I think it could open up different passing options he hasn’t had access to before.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm going to need a definition of a drive by. The mod team won't supply one so I assume it's one of those things when you know it when you see it and want to punish it.

You never asked about my opinion on the leaks because you were already elbows deep on your computer accusing a guy who has posted on this board for 15 years of a massive anti flame point of view.

Afterall, a guy critical of an organization as successful as the flames must have a massive anti flames point of view. Those criticisms couldn't possibly have any merit to them.

United, could you detail for those of us with addled minds about the specifics of the Lindholm for Bennett swap you're talking about?

Please stop. Contrarian is ok but you bring the negative energy too much. You started with the lame comment about leaks. Maybe leaks come from the other side? Who knows. Whatever. For a lot of us, 15 here should blunt the edge and add some perspective, but you seem to end up in a lot of entanglements. Is it worth it?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Please stop. Contrarian is ok but you bring the negative energy too much. You started with the lame comment about leaks. Maybe leaks come from the other side? Who knows. Whatever. For a lot of us, 15 here should blunt the edge and add some perspective, but you seem to end up in a lot of entanglements. Is it worth it?

He has stopped for good by the looks of it.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Someone should write a book about the things Flash has been told. There's a lot of them.

Would I find that in sports or the fiction section?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Would I find that in sports or the fiction section?

Self help.

[stang]

Interesting...

Would you guys do a straight up Sam B for Jesse P swap?

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Miles Wood would be a great addition for the bottom 6 and he has term. I imagine a lot of teams will be inquiring about him.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by stang

Interesting...

Would you guys do a straight up Sam B for Jesse P swap?

No more of your junk. No.

[browna]

Flash gone for a cool down, but no one was leakier than Feaster outside of Lowe and McTavish were, all of who needed to do their work through floating rumours and trial balloons out in the media, because no other GMs would take their calls.

And in this case, I suspect agents of players directly involved, or of potential traded players, are the sources for most of the national guys.

[Manhattanboy]

Hopefully his time out is just that.

I think he’s one of the classic characters of CP.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Hopefully his time out is just that.

I think he’s one of the classic characters of CP.

No kidding. A little sense of humor here might be needed unless I'm missing something.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by stang

Interesting...

Would you guys do a straight up Sam B for Jesse P swap?

Jesse P isn't worth a functioning NHL player.