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Old 12-19-2013, 09:53 AM   #21
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There's a fascinating podcast called The Mental Illness Happy Hour that interviewed a guy who used to work in what can only be described as a housing facility for irreparably damaged pedophiles. Extremely uncomfortable to listen to, but it discusses a very interesting problem: what do you do when these people serve their full sentences but are still at a high risk to reoffend? I had no idea such a place exists, but "patients" are admitted here and are essentially never allowed to leave. They aren't charged with any crime, but their sentence is life.

What I found interesting was that the podcast is generally a source of hope for the damaged. This interview pretty much mirrored what CaptainCrunch mentions though... these people are harmed beyond repair and pretty much just need to be quarantined until they die.

It's a massive expense, but it's something that must be done imo. At the same time, it's still sad. Many of these people (that most would classify as sub-human), were simply child-rape victims themselves. Unless we learn about a magic switch to turn it off though, I don't see an alternate solution.

http://mentalpod.com/Dr-David-Hiroha...xual-Predators
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The only thing I have to ask is why are these two women getting off so easy in comparison? I can't believe they'd do that to their own children. Absolutely disgusting.
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Watkins's barrister claimed that Woman A and Woman B were equally to blame for the abuse that was carried out.

But Woman A's barrister, Jonathan Fuller QC, said his client was an impressionable 17-year-old when she met Watkins for the first time.

"She was corrupted by him," said Fuller. "He darkened her world with drugs and even injected her with heroin. She sacrificed her own moral compass so she could sustain a relationship with a man she was obsessed with.

"She was a girl doing her A-levels. He was in the limelight and a rock star. She was vulnerable and exploited."

Christine Laing QC, for Woman B, said her client was a "very immature young woman" suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder and postnatal depression when she first spoke to Watkins. Laing told the court how Watkins had told Woman B: "You and your daughter now belong to me."
I am not sure that I buy any of that garbage, or at least not to the extent that I feel it would justify leniency given their involvement in this. At the very least, I think they at least got Watkin's sentence right.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:23 AM   #23
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Its hard to believe that there is a very good chance that Watkin's will be back on the streets before I can legally collect my pension.

That just seems to be wrong. Especially since I stated above that I have 0 faith that these people can be fixed.


Same with these woman, I have zero belief that drugs are a valid excuse for this type of crime.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:28 AM   #24
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This really makes me sick. I couldn't read half of it.

There was also time when I actually liked some of the stuff the band made... now I feel ashamed.
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The tough thing is that his band mates are basically going to be guilty by association and this is going to follow them around for the rest of their careers. Every interview is going to start with "so you're lead singer was a sadistic pedo and you didn't know? Riiiight.
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Pedophiles need to be housed in the general populations, not under segregation from the rest of the prison population. Put them in general and let one of the inmates know what he is convicted of, problem solved.
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Pedophiles need to be housed in the general populations, not under segregation from the rest of the prison population. Put them in general and let one of the inmates know what he is convicted of, problem solved.
Oh god I'm going to sound like a Liberal when I say this.

Prison is for punishment, public safety and rehabilitiation

Not as some sort of State sponsored killing box.

As much as we want frontier justice for scum like this that's not the intent, I'd rather see him sit in a 8x4 cage for the rest of his life, being well protected and fed so he can feel every second of his life passing by.
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There's a fascinating podcast called The Mental Illness Happy Hour that interviewed a guy who used to work in what can only be described as a housing facility for irreparably damaged pedophiles. Extremely uncomfortable to listen to, but it discusses a very interesting problem: what do you do when these people serve their full sentences but are still at a high risk to reoffend? I had no idea such a place exists, but "patients" are admitted here and are essentially never allowed to leave. They aren't charged with any crime, but their sentence is life.

What I found interesting was that the podcast is generally a source of hope for the damaged. This interview pretty much mirrored what CaptainCrunch mentions though... these people are harmed beyond repair and pretty much just need to be quarantined until they die.

It's a massive expense, but it's something that must be done imo. At the same time, it's still sad. Many of these people (that most would classify as sub-human), were simply child-rape victims themselves. Unless we learn about a magic switch to turn it off though, I don't see an alternate solution.

http://mentalpod.com/Dr-David-Hiroha...xual-Predators
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The tough thing is that his band mates are basically going to be guilty by association and this is going to follow them around for the rest of their careers. Every interview is going to start with "so you're lead singer was a sadistic pedo and you didn't know? Riiiight.
I don't think it is a stretch to assume that they might have had some knowledge. These guys go on tour and spend almost every minute of their lives together during that time for months.
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I don't think it is a stretch to assume that they might have had some knowledge. These guys go on tour and spend almost every minute of their lives together during that time for months.
I would hope not, because that would make them monsters.

Pedo's are usually pretty good at hiding right in plain site.

Watkin's sounds like he didn't care.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:29 PM   #33
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I don't think it is a stretch to assume that they might have had some knowledge. These guys go on tour and spend almost every minute of their lives together during that time for months.
Sometimes you just don't know everything about someone. My sisters ex husband was gay and they were together for years. Apparently he had affairs with several men during their time together. Sometimes you just don't know, no matter how close you are to them.
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One thing I learned from watching a program on it is that pedophiles get very good at giving the right answers when undergoing therapy.
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I don't know why I opened this thread today, but the fact I did at all makes me sad. Can the thread title be changed to worst human ever?
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:38 PM   #36
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I don't know why I opened this thread today, but the fact I did at all makes me sad. Can the thread title be changed to worst human ever?
Ya "dirtbag" is more returning-an-item-to-walmart-you-didn't-buy-at-walmart than baby rapist.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:37 AM   #37
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Damn, Lostprophets had some killer music. Watch 80000 people jumping up and down at his command, was a really charismatic frontman. Definitely would have been able to easily manipulate young female fans.



Kind of weird watching someone so loved and seemingly normal in that video, knowing what we know now.

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What is truely sad is there are parts of the world that infant rape is all too common.
Like where?
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Like where?
There are parts of Africa where it's believed that you can cure HIV by having sex with an infant. Google it. I'm not doing it at work.
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