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Old 07-07-2018, 06:48 PM   #81
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Saros is heir apparent to a goalie who is 35. No way do they trade him.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:06 PM   #82
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Everyone has a price lol. The flames have too many bodies, if they can make room and get a great player.

Probably not Saros though, someone like him though.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:22 PM   #83
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Everyone has a price lol. The flames have too many bodies, if they can make room and get a great player.

Probably not Saros though, someone like him though.
Someone like who?

Honestly, I think the Flames best bet to start the season is to stand pat. Rittich looked fine for most of his rookie NHL season. I expect him to be better this year.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:22 PM   #84
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Acquiring a backup gets in the way of developing Rittich and Gillies - and by extension, Parsons too.

At some point, you have to commit to, and show some confidence in your young guys.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:39 PM   #85
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Everyone has a price lol. The flames have too many bodies, if they can make room and get a great player.

Probably not Saros though, someone like him though.
The extra bodies they have donít have value and in some cases negative value
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:10 PM   #86
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I think there were some great games in there and some not so great games. However, I can't remember the games well enough to comment on the circumstances that produced Rittich's inconsistency.

I'll disregard the games where Rittich didn't face a significant amount of shots.

> or = to .915 => 10 starts
> or = to .900 => 11 starts
< or = to .900 => 5 starts
< or = to .800 => 2 starts

Mar 24, SJS -> .838
Mar 9, Ott -> .967
Mar 7, Buff -> .962
Feb 28, Colo -> .879
Feb 21, Vgk -> .731
Feb 19, Bos -> .938
Feb 17, Fla -> .733
Feb 15, Nsh - > .906
Feb 13, Bos -> .897
Feb 8, Njd -> .938
Jan 25, Edm -> .919
Jan 12, Fla -> .953
Dec 28, Sjs -> .938
Dec 17, Van -> .941
Dec 7, Mtl -> .946
Nov 25, Col -> .923

So I guess in 16 games in which he faced a decent number of shots, Rittich gave the team pretty decent numbers. 10/16 times he was over .915. He did have 2 disastrous games but in general was much more likely to be good.

Perhaps I'm wrong about not trusting Rittich. Thanks for the post.
Seeing the SV% per game puts things in perspective. The 2 really bad games (<0.800), and 3 subpar games (<0.900) really took a toll on Rittich's SV% and GAA.

In terms of quality starts (QS) Rittich was 18th in the entire league (62.5% of his starts being quality starts). Smith was 30th in quality starts (58.2%) for comparison albeit playing tougher teams.

A good goalie in the NHL has a QS over 60%.

Rittich did fine in his first year with Flames. His "trial by fire" stint as a starter when Smith went down was a terrific learning experience for him.

Expect further growth in his game this year.

If you remove Feb 11-March 11 period when Smith injured. As a backup during season Rittich only had one subpar start right at end of season when things were falling apart for the entire team.

No reason to find a backup goalie. We dont have cap space to spare anyways.
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Seeing the SV% per game puts things in perspective. The 2 really bad games (<0.800), and 3 subpar games (<0.900) really took a toll on Rittich's SV% and GAA.

In terms of quality starts (QS) Rittich was 18th in the entire league (62.5% of his starts being quality starts). Smith was 30th in quality starts (58.2%) for comparison albeit playing tougher teams.

A good goalie in the NHL has a QS over 60%.

Rittich did fine in his first year with Flames. His "trial by fire" stint as a starter when Smith went down was a terrific learning experience for him.

Expect further growth in his game this year.

If you remove Feb 11-March 11 period when Smith injured. As a backup during season Rittich only had one subpar start right at end of season when things were falling apart for the entire team.

No reason to find a backup goalie. We dont have cap space to spare anyways.
Thanks. I saw that QS% on hockeyreference.com but I wasn't actually sure how good it was relative to the rest of the league. 18/31 is better than I would have expected.
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I am worried about a lot of things but we will see how the rest of summer goes
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:35 AM   #89
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried about the goaltending. When Smith is on, he is God Jesus. But we all saw what happened when he went down with injury last season and the other 2 goalies crapped the bed. Goaltending makes or breaks your season, and relying on a 36 year old goaltender to play like he did the first half is IMO a recipe for disaster. Here's hoping the newcomers and new coach can fix a lot of the problems the team faced and won't have to rely on goaltending as much.
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried about the goaltending. When Smith is on, he is God Jesus.

But we all saw what happened when he went down with injury last season and the other 2 goalies crapped the bed.

Goaltending makes or breaks your season, and relying on a 36 year old goaltender to play like he did the first half is IMO a recipe for disaster.

Here's hoping the newcomers and new coach can fix a lot of the problems the team faced and won't have to rely on goaltending as much.
Same, its probably the #1 issue going into the season,

Basically what happens if Smith gets hurt....

I would think the Flames backup has to play around 25 games this season to lower the workload.
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My worries are:

1) Coaching - I’m not 100% sold on Peters as HC here.

2) Goaltending - if Smith picks up where he left off last season, the Flames are in trouble.

3) Toughness - last year Smith was getting run, Brodie gets steamrolled and no one really did anything. The team is fairly small and there are some meathead teams in the division like Edmonton and Anaheim. Worries me that there isn’t anyone to keep people from going after guys like Johnny or running the goalies, etc.
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