Barn Burner: The Boys are Back!! (Boomer, Pinder & Warrener)

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

Could never get into Derek Willis. I just stopped listening to the radio after Peter retired.

He's terrible. We listen to him and defend him because we're biased but Jack Michaels is so much better when I listen to Oilers games.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

but Jack Michaels is so much better when I listen to Oilers games.

green text? that guys is the most annoying announcer with his monster truck rally voice

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

green text? that guys is the most annoying announcer with his monster truck rally voice

I like that voice. Wills brings nothing.

Forget goal calls, just regular action descriptions.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I like that voice. Wills brings nothing.

Forget goal calls, just regular action descriptions.

You are an insane person

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I like that voice. Wills brings nothing.

Forget goal calls, just regular action descriptions.

I normally don’t weigh in on broadcasters but Jack michaels flat out sucks. He’s an embarrassment. It’s as though he’s trying to rile up a bunch of 12 year olds for wrestling event…..it is Edmonton though, so the shoe fits, I guess.

I can’t stand that blow hard.

[Yeah_Baby]

How does he do both the TV and the Radio? Is the colour the same? Don't they have different hosts? So many questions I could easily get answers to living here but I don't.


EDIT: it's not actually a simulcast as I assumed

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

He's terrible. We listen to him and defend him because we're biased but Jack Michaels is so much better when I listen to Oilers games.

No. I can get on board the Derek Wills is Awful train but the I'm hopping off well before Jack Michaels is Good Station.

Jack Michaels is absolutely horrible. Not even Wills is that excruciating to listen to.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Jack Michaels is absolutely horrible. Not even Wills is that excruciating to listen to.

The most wretched part is Oiler fans I've spoken with unanimously think he's incredible.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

The most wretched part is Oiler fans I've spoken with unanimously think he's incredible.

Monster Trucks really are Oilers fans vibes

[Toonage]

His voice is one thing, but that smarmy smile is another.

[Ashasx]

I don't like Michaels and I don't like Wills.

Hockey opinions are one thing, but Wills calls Flames games in iambic pentameter and I cannot stand it.

[ComixZone]

Rhett makes a good point on today’s episode.

He talks about the importance of building a team from within - guys all coming up together, earning bigger paydays from the team and trying to win there is how Champions are built.

He (and Boomer) go on to say that look at this roster - it’s just a collection of players. Tanev, Markstrom, Kadri, Coleman, Huberdeau, Weegar - these are all guys that just came on the market, didn’t earn their contracts with the Flames. The core that came up together - Monahan, Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, (and they mention Gio) - they’re all gone and how the Flames responded to that is by building their team in effectively the same way the Rangers and Leafs used to build teams prior to the salary cap - they just spend big on whatever hits the market and it never works. “That’s not a plan” says Rhett, and I agree - as he then continues critique this organizations failure to ever thing big picture.

Rhett also failed to properly articulate the point he was trying to make for a good while, but finally gets there. You need to build your core internally, and then compliment them with external additions - and that is not how this Flames team was built.

[Manhattanboy]

The poster who referred to these guys as a bunch of paid mercenaries said it best.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Rhett makes a good point on today’s episode.

He talks about the importance of building a team from within - guys all coming up together, earning bigger paydays from the team and trying to win there is how Champions are built.

He (and Boomer) go on to say that look at this roster - it’s just a collection of players. Tanev, Markstrom, Kadri, Coleman, Huberdeau, Weegar - these are all guys that just came on the market, didn’t earn their contracts with the Flames. The core that came up together - Monahan, Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, (and they mention Gio) - they’re all gone and how the Flames responded to that is by building their team in effectively the same way the Rangers and Leafs used to build teams prior to the salary cap - they just spend big on whatever hits the market and it never works. “That’s not a plan” says Rhett, and I agree - as he then continues critique this organizations failure to ever thing big picture.

Rhett also failed to properly articulate the point he was trying to make for a good while, but finally gets there. You need to build your core internally, and then compliment them with external additions - and that is not how this Flames team was built.

Isn't that how the Rangers won in 1994

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

Isn't that how the Rangers won in 1994

Yeah. But it was the Oilers core basically. They had come up together

[Ashasx]

The Rangers are probably one of the few teams that can still operate like that, but the salary cap has made it harder to do so.

Almost all of the Rangers best players are on the Rangers because they play in New York.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Rhett makes a good point on today’s episode.

He talks about the importance of building a team from within - guys all coming up together, earning bigger paydays from the team and trying to win there is how Champions are built.

He (and Boomer) go on to say that look at this roster - it’s just a collection of players. Tanev, Markstrom, Kadri, Coleman, Huberdeau, Weegar - these are all guys that just came on the market, didn’t earn their contracts with the Flames. The core that came up together - Monahan, Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, (and they mention Gio) - they’re all gone and how the Flames responded to that is by building their team in effectively the same way the Rangers and Leafs used to build teams prior to the salary cap - they just spend big on whatever hits the market and it never works. “That’s not a plan” says Rhett, and I agree - as he then continues critique this organizations failure to ever thing big picture.

Rhett also failed to properly articulate the point he was trying to make for a good while, but finally gets there. You need to build your core internally, and then compliment them with external additions - and that is not how this Flames team was built.

Thing is that doesn't really feel like the issue.

Everyone says it's a super tight and close knit locker room, and I think they do play for one another.

It lacks high end talent - which is what you need to draft, and unfortunately Huberdeau isn't providing that.

But the underlying stats are strong.

Honestly if we had slightly better goaltending none of this is a discussion.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Thing is that doesn't really feel like the issue.

Everyone says it's a super tight and close knit locker room, and I think they do play for one another.

It lacks high end talent - which is what you need to draft, and unfortunately Huberdeau isn't providing that.

But the underlying stats are strong.

Honestly if we had slightly better goaltending none of this is a discussion.

It is 2 players having horrendous seasons that is it. Markstrom and Huberdeau play like they have in recent years that earned them those big paydays then this team is in first place in the West. No doubt they have another 10+ points in the standings if Huberdeau had 70pts and Markstrom had a .920 save%

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Rhett makes a good point on today’s episode.

He talks about the importance of building a team from within - guys all coming up together, earning bigger paydays from the team and trying to win there is how Champions are built.

He (and Boomer) go on to say that look at this roster - it’s just a collection of players. Tanev, Markstrom, Kadri, Coleman, Huberdeau, Weegar - these are all guys that just came on the market, didn’t earn their contracts with the Flames. The core that came up together - Monahan, Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, (and they mention Gio) - they’re all gone and how the Flames responded to that is by building their team in effectively the same way the Rangers and Leafs used to build teams prior to the salary cap - they just spend big on whatever hits the market and it never works. “That’s not a plan” says Rhett, and I agree - as he then continues critique this organizations failure to ever thing big picture.

Rhett also failed to properly articulate the point he was trying to make for a good while, but finally gets there. You need to build your core internally, and then compliment them with external additions - and that is not how this Flames team was built.

Can Rhett explain how he came onto a team of a collection of players in 04 and years after that?

Thats who Darryl Sutter built his teams that Rhett played on.

Treliving at least tried to do it the right way and keep the players not much he can do if they don't want to grow here and stay and get paid.

[GioforPM]

Some of those guys who “came up together” became mercenaries. It’s not like Treliving booted them.

The Flames tried their darnedest to build internally. Gaudreau and Tkachuk wanted out. Monahan injured himself out. Bennett just didn’t pan out here. But aside from them you have Backlund, Dube, Mangiapane, Kylington, Andersson. Setting Bennett aside they’d have a big a home grown core as most teams.