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View Poll Results: Which mayoral candidate do you support in the 2017 municipal election?
Jason Achtymichuk (Jason GoGo) 2 0.39%
Andre Chabot 15 2.90%
Brent Chisholm 0 0%
Emile Gabriel 0 0%
Larry Heather 3 0.58%
David Lapp 0 0%
Naheed Nenshi 370 71.57%
Curtis Olson 0 0%
Bill Smith 122 23.60%
Stan (the Man) Waciak 5 0.97%
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Old 10-21-2017, 04:32 PM   #4301
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Postmedia knew exactly what it was buying (3 times) and for what purpose.
Exactly. The big "This just in Bill Smith is leading, and you should join in if you don't want Argue McNoArena anymore!!!! If you thought it couldn't happen so you weren't going to vote - We have proof that it's happening, so vote with us, the Calgary Sun and Flam......I mean vote for yourself!!!!" campaign was a farce.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:04 PM   #4302
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Yes, it's really difficult to predict a landslide victory for a popular mayor running against a field of candidates that provides no significant competition.
They nailed the percentage of vote that he received. Less than 1% off the final result.

Polling a landslide is difficult to get accurate results as turnout is so variable.

People should be mad at the editorializing that mainstreet and post media did around the polls and not at the polls themselves. Mainstreet seems to be acknowledging this. Post media seems to be mad that they were wrong.l not that the process needs changing.

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Old 10-21-2017, 05:24 PM   #4303
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People should be mad at the editorializing that mainstreet and post media did around the polls and not at the polls themselves. Mainstreet seems to be acknowledging this. Post media seems to be mad that they were wrong.l not that the process needs changing.
Without knowing the details behind the scene, I tend to agree with this. I don't have a problem with pollsters publishing data that looks really suspect, even multiple times with a campaign. Sometimes a methodology that works perfectly well most of the time utterly fails in a particular race. It's also highly questionable to change your methodology midway through a campaign, so better that they just forged ahead. But from what I saw, the failing was on Post Media publishing this stuff and not giving an equal platform to the fair criticism of it.
ie: first poll gets revealed and written about at face value. Other sources point to crazy internals, which Post media then vaguely acknowledges, but continues to take it at face value in editorials. Another MS poll comes out, again with crazy (arguably even crazier) internals, and again Post barely acknowledges those, but again just takes it at face value.

Mainstreet and the Post aren't the only ones with this sort of unusual relationship: media very rarely calls out weirdness in the polls that they commission; they almost always take their own polls at face value, but it's rare that a media-commissioned polls produce those sorts of really weird internals.
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Part of the problem with Mainstreet is how aggressive their CEO was about their polls on twitter. Was threatening law suits, dismissing the other ((more accurate)) polls, andally acting like a smug #######.


"We knew the data was suspect" sure, then why did you put down everyone that questioned it?

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