Waiver wire Oct 1. UPD: CAR claims McE. PHI claims Pickard. WSH claims Jaskin - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

sureLoss · 10-01-2018, 08:28 AM

Today is the last day to put players on waivers for them to clear in time for the deadline for the Oct 2nd 5pm ET deadline for opening day rosters.

We will get the full list after 10AM MT but some teams are announcing waivers now.

We will also know if any players on waivers yesterday got claimed after 10AM MT

Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
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Waivers:
CURTIS MCELHINNEY
TOR
CALVIN PICKARD
TOR
RYAN MURPHY
MIN
DALE WEISE
PHI
TAYLOR LEIER
PHI
TOM KUHNHACKL
NYI
DANIEL CARR
VGK
CURTIS MCKENZIE
VGK
REMI ELIE
DAL
JOEL HANLEY
DAL
JUSTIN DOWLING
DAL
DAVID WARSOFSKY
COL
MARK ALT
COL
ALEXANDER BROADHURST
CBJ
ROCCO GRIMALDI
NSH

Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
Waivers 2/2
SAM GAGNER
VAN
DARREN ARCHIBALD
VAN
AARON NESS
WSH
ANTOINE BIBEAU
S.J
TREVOR MURPHY
ARI
DMITRIJ JASKIN
STL
CHRIS THORBURN
STL

Geeoff · 10-01-2018, 08:32 AM

IMO both of those TO goalies are an upgrade but I'd rather trade goalie for goalie so that Parsons and Gillies can be our AHL tandem

David Struch · 10-01-2018, 08:35 AM

I'm also hoping for a 12th forward or maybe a 6th defenseman.

Poe969 · 10-01-2018, 08:38 AM

Picard is a decent option imo. I wanted Sparks though...

Textcritic · 10-01-2018, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

I'm also hoping for a 12th forward or maybe a 6th defenseman.

To pluck from the waiver wire? Weird. The Flames already have too many NHL players at both positions still in camp.

Monahan For Mayor · 10-01-2018, 08:39 AM

McBackup is a serious upgrade on our back up options. .924 sv% last season behind a not so good Toronto d core.

Fire · 10-01-2018, 08:42 AM

If the Flames don't believe in Rittich we will know by tomorrow. Curtis McElhinney would be an improvement on Rittich right now, but would just a be a one year stop gap.

Textcritic · 10-01-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Poe969

Picard is a decent option imo. I wanted Sparks though...

Pickard is a lateral move. Unless there is a clear upgrade I don't see the value in acquiring another goalie on waivers. McElhinney may be that, but the Flames would set themselves in a position of having too many goalies.

I think the most pragmatic thing to do is to start the season with what's in camp, and to trade for a goalie if necessary after actually seeing Flames goalies in game action.

Textcritic · 10-01-2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire

If the Flames don't believe in Rittich we will know by tomorrow...

What would they do with him?

Oling_Roachinen · 10-01-2018, 08:46 AM

I don't care what McElhinney has done recently, I still have nightmares.

Picard though did have some solid backup stats with Colorado, it was only when he was tasked with the reigns for a very bad Avalanche team that his numbers took a hit. And even then he had better stats than Varlamov.

I wouldn't mind seeing him instead of Rittich.

Split98 · 10-01-2018, 08:48 AM

Picard would be a smart pickup for us

rhino · 10-01-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

Picard is a lateral move. Unless there is a clear upgrade I don't see the value in acquiring another goalie on waivers. McElhinney may be that, but the Flames would set themselves in a position of having too many goalies.

I think the most pragmatic thing to do is to start the season with what's in camp, and to trade for a goalie if necessary after actually seeing Flames goalies in game action.

Trade for a starter or backup?

Royle9 · 10-01-2018, 08:49 AM

I have no faith in Rittich after his disastrous pre-season, both of these guys would be an upgrade as a backup in my opinion which allows Gillies to go down and play 1a/1b minutes with Parsons.

I'd give the edge to McElhinney as his backup stats have been historically pretty strong .920+ and low 2 GAA. He's been around long enough to be able to sit for 3 weeks and then come in and steal a game.

I do caution the "been there, done that" with Curtis but he's a lot older now and more matured throughout the league, I think he's a solid backup option over what we have. Doubt the flames move on either of these guys though, I think we need a better candidate moving forward to eventually compete to be the #1

Split98 · 10-01-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

What would they do with him?

Pick up one of those goalies

sureLoss · 10-01-2018, 08:50 AM

Do the Flames still have the same garbage can for McElhinney to sit on?

Fire · 10-01-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

What would they do with him?

Loan him to another AHL team or tell him to go find a team in Europe.

Yrebmi · 10-01-2018, 08:50 AM

For all we know there is already a goalie trade in place but contingent on waiver clear.

Geeoff · 10-01-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

What would they do with him?

Toronto will probably need an AHL goalie if they lose one or both of these ones

Textcritic · 10-01-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Pick up one of those goalies

Which then requires the Flames to keep him on the NHL roster all year. This pushes three goalies down to the AHL and the ECHL which is FAR from ideal.

Because I don't believe this is a viable option it is necessary to move a goalie in order to acquire a goalie. So, my question is, if the Flames pick up a goalie on the waiver wire that must stay in the NHL all year, then what do they do with Rittich?

Oling_Roachinen · 10-01-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Royle9

I'd give the edge to McElhinney as his backup stats have been historically pretty strong .920+ and low 2 GAA. He's been around long enough to be able to sit for 3 weeks and then come in and steal a game.#1

Not historically have his stats been like that. Just recently (which maybe should have more merit). 0.909 for his career, all as a backup. 2.86 GAA.

As a backup Picard has been historically stronger with his two years as a backup with Colorado (0.932 and 0.922 in 16 and 20 games, respectively).