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Old 07-29-2017, 11:21 PM   #1341
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Jones should move straight up to heavyweight. The way he just dismantled Cormier, there's no point in him staying in the LHW division.

Edit: I would also be surprised if Cormier didn't retire tonight.

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Old 07-30-2017, 01:16 AM   #1342
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That makes sense as it sounds like Lesnar is leaving the WWE and not signing another contract.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:39 AM   #1343
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Leaving the WWE to join another company that operates like the WWE...

The fake drama has killed the UFC for me.
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Old 07-30-2017, 11:59 AM   #1344
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Between the McGregor Mayweather fight and now Jones Lesnar the UFC is a joke. It's a sideshow to make money and not much else. Disappointing to see but at least Dana got his payday.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:10 PM   #1345
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Between the McGregor Mayweather fight and now Jones Lesnar the UFC is a joke. It's a sideshow to make money and not much else. Disappointing to see but at least Dana got his payday.

For sure. I'm not a Joe Rogan fan, but when he talked about the Mayweather fight, he was pretty honest in saying it's a longshot. The other guy then chimes in and WWE's the #### outta it. lol

How UFC could welcome back Lesnar considering his last fight he was juiced up, is just bad reputationally for them. It's becoming more and more apparent that they're just as money hungry as boxing promoters now, screwing the integrity of the sport, when you consider these latest moves as well as the hundreds of staff cuts behind the scenes.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:20 PM   #1346
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Guys, what is the #1 goal of any business?

To make money.

"Oh those bastards, how dare they do things that will make them more money?!"

My interest in the UFC has waned the last few years. They haven't gotten any of my money in quite a while, and I used to get every PPV religiously. Still, I'm not going to resent them for getting involved in high profile fights that will make them money. It's why they do what they do.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:35 PM   #1347
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Guys, what is the #1 goal of any business?

To make money.

"Oh those bastards, how dare they do things that will make them more money?!"

My interest in the UFC has waned the last few years. They haven't gotten any of my money in quite a while, and I used to get every PPV religiously. Still, I'm not going to resent them for getting involved in high profile fights that will make them money. It's why they do what they do.
Sigh, no one is begrudging them making money. They've taken their highest profile fighter and put him in a sideshow against an old man in another sport and now look to take their second highest profile fighter and having him fight a known juicer in another weight class who's lately spent his time rasslin. These are exhibition fights and they're the "highlight" of the organisation. That's the joke.

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Old 07-30-2017, 12:58 PM   #1348
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Sigh, no one is begrudging them making money. They've taken their highest profile fighter and put him in a sideshow against an old man in another sport and now look to take their second highest profile fighter and having him fight a known juicer in another weight class who's lately spent his time rasslin. These are exhibition fights and they're the "highlight" of the organisation. That's the joke.
They are making more money off these fights because they are high profile, and people bitch and complain non stop because of it, like the two posts previous to mine.

I don't want to watch Conor fighter Mayweather. I would much rather see Conor defend his LW title and fight MMA fights, but what can you do? It's about making money and McGregor would have to fight about 6 UFC fights or more to make what he's likely going to make in this one sideshow fight with Mayweather. MacGregor is reportedly going to pull down roughly $70+ million for this fight, and the UFC is supposed to get 10% of the total revenue.

Same with Jones. The guy made $500k for his fight last night, plus $50k bonus for performance of the night. That was a fight against a guy who is likely his biggest challenge in the LHW division. That's peanuts when you look at the big picture. Why does he call out Lesnar? Because Lesnar is one of the biggest draws in UFC history. He's one of a select few who's ever pulled down 7 figures from a UFC fight purse. He's going for a pay day, simple as that.

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Old 07-30-2017, 01:20 PM   #1349
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Well, that's the point. I don't know how to put it in other terms but there is reckless abandon in what they're doing to promote the sport as legitimate. Nobody's going to fault them for making money, but they're biting the hand that feeds. Certainly fans moved over from other brute entertainment forms because UFC had a legitimate realness to it. By now promoting it like WWE for the sake of making money, they'll make money from it in the near term (shock factor), but then you have to keep upping the ante to bring those fans in when it becomes ho-hum. They're playing with fire and to me, it's not in a good way. The good days were the GSP days from 2008. I haven't really been a fan post-2011 or so, so this is mostly me speaking as an outsider fan looking in. I also found yesterdays card pretty good - first event watched in awhile.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:49 PM   #1350
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It's no different then it's always been

It's a fight promotion just because they sold you the sports label to get it over and on TV doesn't change the fact that they are fight promoters.

From day one this is how it has always been,
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WME overpaid for the UFC. The only way they'r going to fill up the coffers is to have these outlandish fights that get the attention of the general public. Also, the new management haven't a clue what the #### they're doing. I don't know how they let guys like Rory McDonald and Gegard Moussasi go to Bellator.
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The point when UFC was officially in the business of spectacles was when they let James Toney get embarrassed by Randy Couture all those years ago. From there, the spectacles just became more frequent.

Bellator is on the rise. UFC has no compass since the takeover.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:09 PM   #1353
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:33 PM   #1355
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I hope you're all sitting down...Jon Jones failed his drug test after his win over Cormier. What an idiot.
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I feel the worst for DC in all this.

Even though Jones is the only person he's ever lost to, and even though we know that Jones wasn't likely clean for either fight, it will go down as a blemish on his career that he wasn't able to beat Jones.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:26 PM   #1357
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I feel the worst for DC in all this.

Even though Jones is the only person he's ever lost to, and even though we know that Jones wasn't likely clean for either fight, it will go down as a blemish on his career that he wasn't able to beat Jones.
I think this actually makes it better for DC. I'm guessing the most recent fight will be called a no-contest, and everyone will probably think Jones was juicing in their first first fight, which may or may not be the case.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:41 PM   #1358
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If the UFC really wanted to take a stance against PEDs, they'd award the losing fighter all the winnings if the other fighter tested positive post-fight. Jones is a waste.
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Old 08-23-2017, 10:38 AM   #1359
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Isn't Jones now facing a 4 year suspension for this, which for him is pretty much a career death sentence.
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:46 PM   #1360
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Isn't Jones now facing a 4 year suspension for this, which for him is pretty much a career death sentence.
Guess that canival sideshow "super fight" with Brock will have to be at WrestleMania. That's a shame.
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