2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Mostly just the same sort of stuff that has been percolating over the past few weeks. Nothing new or exciting that I've seen.

I have a hard time imaging how this draft will play out from a trade perspective, it's not like GMs are going to be on the floor going table to table, right? I guess a lot of it is already done by phone anyway, but I think it takes away a little bit of that "pressure in the moment."

We'll see!

It could be that the press aren't standing around listening in, and asking questions. Maybe they don't have their finger on the pulse like they would otherwise.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Over the last 3 years you speak about, among all Flames players who've played at least 40 games, Sam Bennett ranks 15th in giveaways per 60 and 9th among Flames forwards.

Terrible I tell you. Lol.

If Sam Bennett did something to you personally (I'm not sure if the second bolded might be referring to an ex girlfriend or boyfriend) then I'm sorry, but your blind hatred of him is a little over the top.

The entire team being bad for something doesn't make him good at it. When I played basketball, I led my team in free throw percentage, but I was still awful at it.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I'm mostly looking forward to Benning speaking on the wrong Zoom and spilling out trade details and discussions on the main draft bridge.

Why would we even be at the draft? Ain't doing #### till tomorrow.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

and we'll see come next season

I already saw the future Ric Flair would be proud

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Why would we even be at the draft? Ain't doing #### till tomorrow.

God damn it, Blaster. You're right.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Why would we even be at the draft? Ain't doing #### till tomorrow.

*Insert Benning Picture*

There are two draft days!?!?

[sureLoss]

Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
Looks like Toffoli going to the market because VAN can’t clear the space

[dammage79]

Welcome to Calgary Tyler.

[Vinny01]

With the media and the GM’s not all congregating together on the draft floor I do t think we will see as many various twitter rumors as we typically do.

We would get tweets about 2 GM’s huddled together and other buzz on the floor. If trades drop I think they will be out of the blue

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

What woman did I refer to? You don't need to be a specific sex to give a blow job. It literally has nothing to do with anyone's sex (except Bennett's I suppose). That phrase is a common one for people worshiping something because the act of getting on your knees for fellatio is similar to that of praying.

You two should get a room and suck each other's dicks.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
Looks like Toffoli going to the market because VAN can’t clear the space

...but they want to add OEL?

How many spreadsheet simulations did Benning say they ran? 100?

[SuperMatt18]

20 forwards have played over 1000 minutes for the Flames over the last three seasons - here is Bennett's rank at 5v5

Goals per 60: 0.68 (T-8th)
Assists per 60: 0.71 (15th)
Primary Assists per 60: 0.5 (T-10th)
Points per 60: 1.39 (12th)

Shots / 60: 7.82 (7th)
ixG/60: 0.8 (2nd)
iHDCF/60: 4.29 (5th)
Rebounds Created Per 60: 1.07 (1st)
Rush Attempts/60: 0.53 (6th)

Minor / 60: 1.26 (1st)
Penalties Drawn/60: 0.93 (7th)

Giveaways/60: 1.94 (9th - Tkachuk & Johnny are 1st...tends to happend when you have the puck)
Takeaways/60: 2.25 (8th)
Hits/60: 8.6 (6th)

CF/60: 62.4 (6TH)
CA/60: 57.2 (15th)
CF%: 52.2% (10th)

xGF/60: 2.54 (5th)
xGA/60: 2.28 (15th)
xGF%: 52.6 (8th)

On ice shooting %: 6.45 (14th)
On ice save percentage: .921 (9th)
PDO: .985 (15th)

Bennett is a guy that's had bottom 6 production, but has generated much higher volume of shots/chances/rebounds than his production and has some bad luck from a percentages perspective. Biggest negative against his game is he's taken too many minor penalties.

Really his role for next season is exactly what it should be - third line forward with the potential to be more if he can keep up his play at C with more talented linemates.

Gaudreau & Tkachuk are the proxy for the top two lines on this team. Here's Bennett's WoWY for those guys over the last three seasons.

Bennett+ Tkachuk:

312 Minutes
53.4% Corsi For
52.0% Expected Goals For
52.6% Expected Goals For

PDO: .989 (8.38 Shooting %, .905 sv percentage)
15 GF, 14 GA

Gaudreau+Bennett

238 Minutes
53.3% Corsi For
44.2 HDCF%
46.4 Expected Goals For

.958 PDO (4.96% Shooting, .908 SV)
6 GF, 11 GA

Bennett with Neither

1826 Minutes
51.9 xGF
56.7 HDCF%
53.7 xGF%

.987 PDO (6.3% Shooting, .924% Sv)
59 Goals For, 72 Goals Against

So Bennett was played outside of the top 6 because really he's actually been able to drive his own line to positive results without playing in our top 6 (w/o Tkachuk or Gaudreau). Problem is his line hasn't been able to finish their chances with a 6.3% on ice shooting percentage.

And make no mistake Bennett is the one driving the strong play on that line.

Bennett without Jankowski, Tkachuk, or Gaudreau

CF% 52.1%
HDCF: 55.4%
xGF%: 53.1

28 GF, 31 GA

Jankowski without Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk

CF%: 49.4%
HDCF%: 46.3%
xGF%: 49.9%

GF: 24, GA: 38

Bennett's advanced numbers are pretty consistent with whoever he plays with and they are generally strong, but Jankowski was just lost away from Bennett. Giving Bennett time with consistent linemates not named Mark Jankowski will be the biggest thing in him potentially taking a step forward.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

...but they want to add OEL?

How many spreadsheet simulations did Benning say they ran? 100?

I have a feeling these things are connected. With Toffoli out, my bet is they acquire OEL and do so for less retained than Blaster is hoping for.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

The entire team being bad for something doesn't make him good at it. When I played basketball, I led my team in free throw percentage, but I was still awful at it.

I concur. Your aim must have been awful, because remarkably, you're still shooting yourself in the foot.

The Flames have the fourth-highest shot attempt rate in the NHL over the past three seasons (61.13 shot attempts / 60 minutes)

If they hypothetically have a skew towards more giveaways than other teams... this is because they simply have the puck more often.

Giveaways are not a stat with any value whatsoever. Not for forwards, nor for defensemen.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

...but they want to add OEL?

How many spreadsheet simulations did Benning say they ran? 100?

Athletic article said their priorities right now are markstrom and OEL, once they know where those two shake out, toffoli is their next priority, and the RFAs

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

...but they want to add OEL?

How many spreadsheet simulations did Benning say they ran? 100?

14,000,605

Only one works out.

[dissentowner]

Wtf is going on in this thread?

[SuperMatt18]

I for one hope the Canucks sign Markstrom and Toffoli to big deals, and then also trade for OEL.

Then end up trading Boeser or Horvat when they realize that Petterson and Hughes are going to cost at least $16M next year.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Wtf is going on in this thread?

A similar thing is happening when you lose your marbles about Gaudreau?

Or me with Hudler.

Or Love with Monahan.

Or WhereRUChris Osullivan with Backlund.

CR is just adding some extra pizzazz with the felatio.

[FlamesLitSquad]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...65709780291590


Interesting. Might o out on Anderson