[News] Weisbroad named VP player personnel in Vancouver

[Scoreface]

Benning is to the Canucks what MacT is to the Oilers. They are old balls club guys.

I for one really like what's going on there. They're building something special too.

[Ring of Fire]

If this is true do the Canucks keep Laurence Gilman as AGM?

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

So if this is true, who are they firing? Or do they plan to have 3 AGMs?

I think Henning might just have his role changed, he was an AGM but technically in charge of player personel

Gillman and Weisbroad will likely be the two main AGM's, Gilman on the financial side with cap/contracts, Weisbroad more on the scouting side

Originally Posted by Ring of Fire

If this is true do the Canucks keep Laurence Gilman as AGM?

Linden wants to keep him, and Gilman said the only job he would leave for is a full GM job

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

Benning is to the Canucks what MacT is to the Oilers. They are old balls club guys.

I for one really like what's going on there. They're building something special too.

How is that anything like MacT to the Oilers? He was director scouting for the Ducks for six years, and has spent the last eight years as Boston's AGM.

[Scoreface]

Originally Posted by Cole436

How is that anything like MacT to the Oilers? He was director scouting for the Ducks for six years, and has spent the last eight years as Boston's AGM.

Because he played for them?

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

Because he played for them?

That's your only criteria?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I think Weisbroad's main problem was(is?), is his tunnel vision. Feaster had the same problem. Once either of them got focused on a player or prospect them zeroed in on them and because too focused. I think you saw that with Feaster in regards to Byron and Weisbroad with Jankowski.

agreed here

Since the 2011 draft was all Tod Button, look at the 2012 draft and the returns for Iginla/Bouw..... ya I'm not impressed. Take him, please Vancouver. I hope he shapes the mould of your team.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It was stated by Boomer and Steinberg on 960 the day the news broke that Weisbrod and Feaster was fired that his influence on the 2013 draft was reduced after the 2012 draft. They also said he wasn't popular around the league.

Peter Mahr said the same thing.... he wasn't well liked around the league

Originally Posted by iggysback05

The biggest take away for me upon Weisbrod's dismissal and it was claimed by Flames staff and media members alike - he wasn't really around all that much.

It struck me as a little disappointing that an assistant GM of an Alberta team would spend the majority of his time on the east coast.

Agreed. At the time Burke canned Feaster/Weisbrod, when asked about Weisbrod, he simply just said he didn't really know him cause he was never around. I don't think he was ever in Calgary at all.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Totally agree with this. I have worked with many people like this over a long career. The phrase "what does he/she actually do???" comes up a lot. Along with resentment over them earning a paycheque for ..... ???

In my experience, people like that are all hot air but have managed to land themselves a good paying position because they have pulled the wool over the eyes of the right people. Not saying this is Weisbrod because I have never met him. But everything I heard after his firing led me to the expectation that he is "that guy". And btw, it is ALWAYS a guy like Burke who identifies "that guy" in an organization and gets him the hell out.

He was looking after the Penske file...

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Totally agree with this. I have worked with many people like this over a long career. The phrase "what does he/she actually do???" comes up a lot. Along with resentment over them earning a paycheque for ..... ???

In my experience, people like that are all hot air but have managed to land themselves a good paying position because they have pulled the wool over the eyes of the right people. Not saying this is Weisbrod because I have never met him. But everything I heard after his firing led me to the expectation that he is "that guy". And btw, it is ALWAYS a guy like Burke who identifies "that guy" in an organization and gets him the hell out.

LOL, Vlad put it best in the post previous to mine... he was on the Penske file . He was supposed to be the mastermind behind the "best player not in the NHL" and we get caught with our pants down that he can't play center in the NHL. And why was he never in Calgary?

[Fire]

I don't understand how someone can say Weisbrod did a great job hear or a terrible job for the Flames. The fact is that nobody here knows how what he had his fingers in while employed by the Flames. Except for Jankowski pick I have no idea what he did.

[OzSome]

It makes me laugh that some of those people calling Weisbrod a genius while he was still here are the ones calling him terrible AGM, all talk and no action. Maybe because he is rumoured to be with our arch-rival Vancouver Canucks. I am sure if the rumour is for Pittsburgh or Washington AGM position people's attitude towards him will be different. Actually I like Weisbrod. He seems like an intelligent person and knows what he wants. Too bad it didn't work out for him here. I am sure the old school Brian Burke doesn't agree with Weisbrod new system that's why he got fired. I am hoping the rumour of him going to Canucks is not true.. I think this rumour started when someone from CP mentioned that Benning used to work with Weisbrod in Boston and JB will bring him along as AGM.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by OzSome

It makes me laugh that some of those people calling Weisbrod a genius while he was still here are the ones calling him terrible AGM, all talk and no action. Maybe because he is rumoured to be with our arch-rival Vancouver Canucks. I am sure if the rumour is for Pittsburgh or Washington AGM position people's attitude towards him will be different. Actually I like Weisbrod. He seems like an intelligent person and knows what he wants. Too bad it didn't work out for him here. I am sure the old school Brian Burke doesn't agree with Weisbrod new system that's why he got fired. I am hoping the rumour of him going to Canucks is not true.. I think this rumour started when someone from CP mentioned that Benning used to work with Weisbrod in Boston and JB will bring him along as AGM.

You should read the Feaster/Weisbrod fired thread. He wasn't well liked there.

The reason Burke gave was that returns on trades were not enough, and drafting. When asked about Weisbrod, Burke just said Weisbrod was never around so he didn't really know him. When Peter Mahr was asked, he said Feaster/Weisbrod did not have a lot of respect among their peers in the NHL because they gave off the impression they were smarter then everyone else.

These are just the words from Burke and Peter Mahr, not my personal opinion.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

You should read the Feaster/Weisbrod fired thread. He wasn't well liked there.

The reason Burke gave was that returns on trades were not enough, and drafting. When asked about Weisbrod, Burke just said Weisbrod was never around so he didn't really know him. When Peter Mahr was asked, he said Feaster/Weisbrod did not have a lot of respect among their peers in the NHL because they gave off the impression they were smarter then everyone else.

These are just the words from Burke and Peter Mahr, not my personal opinion.

Yeah, they gave that impression to us fans as well, talking like we were fans from the ECHL Orlando Solar Bears.

[Muta]

Benning is such a Weis guy.

[YogiBerra]

Weisbrod is just as culpable for all of the moves Feaster made while here. Feaster deferred to his employees, according to him, and his AGM is his right hand man. If the players we have drafted turn out maybe he could make up for the sub par performance in other areas but at best he is breaking even. Glad we got rid of him.

[Scoreface]

Originally Posted by Cole436

That's your only criteria?

Trevor Linden as well..

[bubbsy]

I think it's a good move for the canucks, i liked wesibrod as a flame, didn't have any major issues in his picks (i was fine with the jankowski pick).

I think the nucks are having a solid offseason in revamping their management group. I think they are likely going to be doing some major moves at the draft, the only question is whether they try to acquire youth/picks or try to build out a decent nhl roster to compliment the sedins and a decent defence.

[Vinny01]

I know I was a fan of Weisbroad in the early going. He seemed like a guy that knew what he was talking about

When stuff came out about he and Feaster thinking they were smarter than everyone else and the league wide perception of the Flames was poor from a management standpoint I am glad Burke pulled the trigger.

I am happy for Weisbroad but I am not sure Vancouver is getting anything special here. I also am very pleased with the Flames organizational changes moving in the right direction.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The bi-polar views on Weisbrod on this forum never cease to amaze me.

For a while he was the wonder child, given credit for sunshine and the shape of Jennifer Aniston's breasts. Now he is garbage, and personally responsible for global warming climate change.

The guy did some good things here and made some good draft picks. He also made some mistakes. Shocking.

I think he would be a pretty good AGM for Benning (unfortunately)

I for one never really saw the big deal about Jennifer Aniston. Weisbrod can take Jennifer Aniston and her unremarkable boobs to the Canucks.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Agreed. At the time Burke canned Feaster/Weisbrod, when asked about Weisbrod, he simply just said he didn't really know him cause he was never around. I don't think he was ever in Calgary at all.

The guy was supposed to be the assistant GM and he never talked to the President. Doesn't that seem really strange for someone high in management not to discuss some player/personnel agendas his new boss? Bizarre actually. When I heard that I was very surprised. I wonder if Weisbrod maybe played a role in Feaster being let go as he obviously didn't seem keen to work with Burke and he was Feaster's right hand man which means they were a package deal.