[Trade] PIT/OTT/VGK complex 3 way trade involving Brassard, Cole, Reaves, picks, prospects

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I still think Ryan isn't being utilized correctly and has never been in Ottawa ~ the guy was a superstar in Anaheim. I think he's easily a 50 to 60 point guy again playing with Johnny and Mony.

Under Gully? If hes being underutilized now Ol' Glen is just going to say:

"Hold my beer..."

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Locke

Under Gully? If hes being underutilized now Ol' Glen is just going to say:

"Hold my beer..."

Gaudreau, Ferland, Monahan, Tkachuk, Hamilton, Hathaway are all guys on pace to smashing their career year totals and or already have, Backlund had his highest consideration ever for the Selke under Gulutzan, Smith has been all world for this time under GG, Gaudreau/Monahan this year have been nothing short of spectacular for this club and the fact that we complain about players like that sometimes ~ and Im saying you do Locke; I just am meaning in general at CP when you see guys like Gaudreau or Monahan get complained about ~ its shocking to me.

Sure guys like Brouwer, Bennett and Brodie have struggled under Gulutzan but every coach has players like these that they have to coach a different way or never seem to be able to get what they should out of them but Gulutzan has had many stellar personal performance years out of a good majority of the players on this team and he should be at least somewhat recognized for this looking past his foibles.

I get some of the dislike for GG at times; I've been there with many when he has frustrated us with decisions but this notion that players don't excel under Gully seems a little unfair to the guy at this point.

I realize it was my suggestion for Bobby Ryan that spurred all of this and I hate to derail a topic but after seeing so much negativity about GG; admittedly from myself at times, I had to step up and recognize some of the success from GG too and there are definitely some.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Is it that he's being underutilized or is it a systems thing? I don't get how hard he's fallen. Did he forget how to play hockey? Probably not. Has he gone the Heatley route where he just can't keep up anymore? Dunno.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

wow. That's a crazy add. Brassard is a guy who elevates his game in the playoffs pretty consistently. A Pens-Lightning series will be very interesting to watch.

Not if TB adds Karlsson.

[sureLoss]

Wow. Vegas is likely getting an asset to retain salary on Brassard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/967159040534106113

[TheScorpion]

Oh my.

[FlamesNation23]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wow. Vegas is likely getting an asset to retain salary on Brassard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/967159040534106113

Lmao i wonder if this is because ottawa did not want to retain salary because melnyk is too cheap

[savardandjokinen]

Wonder what Vegas gets. Probably a depth player of sorts

[TheScorpion]

I bet it's Reaves.

[savardandjokinen]

Wait is it Ottawa or Pittsburgh sending the asset? I thought it was Ottawa because melnyk and company were refusing to retain salary

[SuperMatt18]

My guess is Vegas is the team that gets Cole in exchange for retaining the salary.

[sureLoss]

McKenzie said layers of salary retention, so that would imply both Ottawa and Vegas would be retaining.

For example Ottawa can retain x% up to a maximum of 50%, then Vegas can retain y% up to a maximum of 50% on whatever is left after Ottawa retains.

Not clear who is giving up the asset yet to Vegas.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

So as of right now this season the Sens have traded:

Turris
2018 First (Top ten protected)
2018 Third
Bowers
Hammond
Brassard
Phaneuf
Thompson

for

Duchene
2018 First
Gustavsson
Cole
Gaborik
Shore

That doesn't seem very inspiring if I'm a Sens fan TBH. Especially since if they make all these deals they probably wont be very good next year, and still owe Colorado that pick (could be Jack Hughes for all we know).

If I were a Sens fan, I'd be worried sick about what the return might be in a Karlsson trade...

[IliketoPuck]

Fascinating stuff.

GM GM putting on a clinic right now.

[sureLoss]

Rejected!

https://twitter.com/user/status/967171365827592192

[devo22]

lol, rejected according to Kypreos

[Mathgod]

Wow! Did the league issue a statement?

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Wow! Did the league issue a statement?

No. Kypreos just tweeted it. But he's very connected.

I think he's more in the know than Bob MacKenzie now.

[SuperMatt18]

C'mon NHL let us have our fun.

My guess is both teams are trying to retain salary on a player in a 3 way trade but you can't do that since Brassard is never officially a member of the Knights in a 3 way deal.

So they will have to figure out a way to split it into multiple deals likely.

Something like

Brassard to Vegas for a conditional 1st round pick (condition being Vegas gets to pick any first rounder to give to Ottawa)

Then it goes Brassard to Pittsburgh for a 1st and Cole and maybe something else depending on what the exchange was for salary retention. (This first goes to Ottawa as per the conditions of the trade)

Then Pittsburgh sends the goalie prospect to Ottawa for future considerations or a 7th rounder or something.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/967173068534812673

https://twitter.com/user/status/967173231718338561