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Old 02-25-2021, 02:31 PM   #81
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I always like to look at it in baseball terms - it simplifies the numbers and compensates for different numbers of games played. Currently, the Flames are:

2 games out of 4th - with 7 games remaining, head to head
2 1/2 games out of 3rd - with 4 games remaining
2 1/2 games out of 2nd - with 7 games remaining

to say they need to win all 4 games or their season is toast, is just silly.

All they need, in order to salvage the season and make the playoffs, is to start playing better (I don't believe that will happen though, unfortunately)
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:33 PM   #82
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I always like to look at it in baseball terms - it simplifies the numbers and compensates for different numbers of games played. Currently, the Flames are:

2 games out of 4th - with 7 games remaining, head to head
2 1/2 games out of 3rd - with 4 games remaining
2 1/2 games out of 2nd - with 7 games remaining

to say they need to win all 4 games or their season is toast, is just silly.

All they need, in order to salvage the season and make the playoffs, is to start playing better (I don't believe that will happen though, unfortunately)
You're really going wild with the stats and observations today.
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I always like to look at it in baseball terms - it simplifies the numbers and compensates for different numbers of games played. Currently, the Flames are:

2 games out of 4th - with 7 games remaining, head to head
2 1/2 games out of 3rd - with 4 games remaining
2 1/2 games out of 2nd - with 7 games remaining

to say they need to win all 4 games or their season is toast, is just silly.

All they need, in order to salvage the season and make the playoffs, is to start playing better (I don't believe that will happen though, unfortunately)
Again...I dont disagree. But it would make life a lot easier.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:39 PM   #84
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You're really going wild with the stats and observations today.
Thank you for getting these!
Trying to avoid work, apparently
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:46 PM   #85
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\While I find the stats interesting, it would be really helpful if guys that posted them also put either a league average or a comparable. Fore ex. Crosby. then we can see if these random numbers are actually good. Just a suggestion.
I can't help you with the comparables but here are the league averages:

CF: 50.00
SF%: 50.00
GF%: 50.00
xGF%: 50.00
SCF%: 50.00
HDCF%: 50.00
HDGF%: 50.00

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Oh god more 20-21 Flames hockey already.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:49 PM   #87
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Who are dummies that keep asking/thinking Tkatchuk's will fight? Toronto media that doesn't watch nor learn about teams not named the Leafs?
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:01 PM   #88
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Yeah man. I get that. But the Sens are the worst team in the League.

The. Worst.

The Vegas bookmakers would probably rank the Seattle Kraken as a better team than the Ottawa Senators and they dont even exist yet.

They're not even trying. These points should be the equivalent of trying to extract candy from a pinata with a Howitzer.

And frankly, we're not going all that hot-awesome against the better teams, so those teams are taking points from Ottawa and us.

I'm not saying its 'season over' but it is an indictment of the team.

The problem is that the Sens aren’t giving out free Sens points so much anymore.

So they had a 4 week period giving Edm and Wpg 8 out of 8 free points, and Vancouver 6 in 3 games, and since then, the Sens have won 4 of their last 6. 2 vs Mtl in OT/SO, one vs Toronto in OT and one vs Wpg

Seems like their coach has them playing better than before.

Ottawa’s coach should be circling these 4 games and saying that passing Calgary is in reach.

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Flames certainly shouldn't be taking anyone for granted but if there was ever a team to beat 3 of 4 this is it.

9 of 12 points against the Leafs/Sens would put them right back in the race for 2-4
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:21 PM   #90
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Wish list:

1. Hit the net more often - by this I mean stop shooting it wide on grade A opportunities and try not to aim at the goalies crest if you do hit the net

2. Stop dumping and chasing all the time - Our forecheck and team speed is rather poor at puck retrieval

3. Stop letting teams walk into our zone and playing keep away for 2 mins - I think last game there was a timer on Bennett and Hanifin because the Leafs had the puck on a string

I'd much rather play well and lose than play bad and win. At the end it all catches up
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:26 PM   #91
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Flames might be surprised by how good Ottawa is. 5-3 Ottawa is my guess
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Flames might be surprised by how good Ottawa is. 5-3 Ottawa is my guess
Do you think the players and coaches have failed to notice? I suspect everyone knows exactly how much better Ottawa is playing now than they were two weeks ago.
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:58 PM   #94
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Ugh. I wish Kylington was kept for the lineup. Looks like Nesterov is drawing in. I hope Kylington plays with more frequency.
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Wish list:

1. Hit the net more often - by this I mean stop shooting it wide on grade A opportunities and try not to aim at the goalies crest if you do hit the net

2. Stop dumping and chasing all the time - Our forecheck and team speed is rather poor at puck retrieval

3. Stop letting teams walk into our zone and playing keep away for 2 mins - I think last game there was a timer on Bennett and Hanifin because the Leafs had the puck on a string

I'd much rather play well and lose than play bad and win. At the end it all catches up
One of the things that hasn't been talked about much, with respect tot their style of play, is the ease with which they give up the zones.

When the opposition begins their breakout, the D rarely pinches. More often then not, they have backed up to center ice before the other team is above the circles. And they continue backing up until they are inside their blueline - effectively giving the opposition 2 zones with no effort.

EXACTLY the same thing Gulutzan did.

I ####ing hate passive, safe hockey
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Not optimistic. Slow starters and thinking the opposition are weak sounds like perfect recipe for disaster.

Sens will come out with jump and go up 2-0. Flames will start to get their game going in 2nd & 3rd, but Sens hold them off and win 3-1.
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This is all Treliving trying to exploit Kylington's two way deal, at the expense of the team.
We could use the cap space when we are buyers again at the deadline.
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:26 PM   #98
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I really don't want to jump on the coach for every little thing, but unless he is hurt, it really is difficult to understand why he isn't in the lineup tonight.

He wasn't just ok last night, he was really good. Easily better than what we have seen from Nesterov and Mackey of late.
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move Kylington to RW. is there any doubt he would bring more to the lineup than Leivo? he'd probably make a hell of a PKer too.
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Wish list:

1. Hit the net more often - by this I mean stop shooting it wide on grade A opportunities and try not to aim at the goalies crest if you do hit the net

2. Stop dumping and chasing all the time - Our forecheck and team speed is rather poor at puck retrieval

3. Stop letting teams walk into our zone and playing keep away for 2 mins - I think last game there was a timer on Bennett and Hanifin because the Leafs had the puck on a string

I'd much rather play well and lose than play bad and win. At the end it all catches up
They're also taking WAY too many bad penalties. I'd put that on my wish list.

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