"Take that Calgary Puck!" — SN960 and Calgary sports media discussion

[browntrout]

[QUOTE=McG;7807541]Can’t disagree with anything that you have written. It would seem to suggest that the Flames better keep their draft picks and not give away assets like UFAs walking away for nothing or dumping third and fourth round picks on player rentals. This mismanagement of assets is one of the primary reasons for unhappiness with the GM.[/QUOTE

There is only one way this team will become better, and that is through the draft, this team has not really hit a homerun with their first round picks and it shows in the results. Tear it down, take another shot at drafting and get it right this time. I remember a time when Chicago was still bad after a partial rebuild, they were not afraid to tear it down and rebuild through the draft, the rest is history...

[Vinny01]

There is only one way this team will become better, and that is through the draft, this team has not really hit a homerun with their first round picks and it shows in the results. Tear it down, take another shot at drafting and get it right this time. I remember a time when Chicago was still bad after a partial rebuild, they were not afraid to tear it down and rebuild through the draft, the rest is history...[/QUOTE]

This makes very little sense to me. Tkachuk is a home run at 6. Valimaki has potential to be a home run as do Pelletier and Zary. They hit multiple home runs in later rounds in the last decade with Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Fox and potentially guys like Phillips, Pettersson and Wolf.

I think they need to hold onto their draft picks and not trade them away as they have shown a strong ability to get good players later in the draft recently.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There is only one way this team will become better, and that is through the draft, this team has not really hit a homerun with their first round picks and it shows in the results. Tear it down, take another shot at drafting and get it right this time. I remember a time when Chicago was still bad after a partial rebuild, they were not afraid to tear it down and rebuild through the draft, the rest is history...

This makes very little sense to me. Tkachuk is a home run at 6. Valimaki has potential to be a home run as do Pelletier and Zary. They hit multiple home runs in later rounds in the last decade with Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Fox and potentially guys like Phillips, Pettersson and Wolf.

I think they need to hold onto their draft picks and not trade them away as they have shown a strong ability to get good players later in the draft recently.

Edmonton, Toronto, Vancouver, Winnipeg, too early to say for Ottawa, but Calgary has built a worse foundational core than any other Canadian (read, impatient) franchise.

Every team has their hits/misses in the draft. No way Calgary is considered an overwhelming team when it comes to the draft. Pretty damn average, all things considered.

[Jiri Hrdina]

^The quoting going on in the last 3 posts is confusing the heck out of me.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^The quoting going on in the last 3 posts is confusing the heck out of me.

Lol.. Sorry, not sure what happened there.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Edmonton, Toronto, Vancouver, Winnipeg, too early to say for Ottawa, but Calgary has built a worse foundational core than any other Canadian (read, impatient) franchise.

Every team has their hits/misses in the draft. No way Calgary is considered an overwhelming team when it comes to the draft. Pretty damn average, all things considered.

lol Edmonton...sucked for 2 decades and won four lotteries and have 2 good players

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol Edmonton...sucked for 2 decades and won four lotteries and have 2 good players

Yes, but the Flames have sucked for 2 (...pretty much 3) decades and don’t have any foundational pieces.

They’re in a better position than we are today, and we have not had more success than them during that time. Edmonton sucks beyond belief, and have screwed up pick after pick, trade after trade, and signing after signing and yet somehow we’re worse off.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yes, but the Flames have sucked for 2 (...pretty much 3) decades and don’t have any foundational pieces.

They’re in a better position than we are today, and we have not had more success than them during that time. Edmonton sucks beyond belief, and have screwed up pick after pick, trade after trade, and signing after signing and yet somehow we’re worse off.

Lets not pretend they made some shrewd choice to rebuild...they tried to be good, sucked and fluked out at lotteries, and are average at best right now.

Good a beating the Sens and .500 against the rest of an average division.

Model franchise

They have drafted terrible other than the no brainer picks (and have even screwed up a couple of them)

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lets not pretend they made some shrewd choice to rebuild...they tried to be good, sucked and fluked out at lotteries, and are average at best right now.

Good a beating the Sens and .500 against the rest of an average division.

Model franchise

This could apply to us just as much as the Oilers.

We sucked, traded Iginla and Bouw (got nothing in return) and then went right back to spending to the cap ceiling.

Both teams are just horribly managed. At this stage though, the Flames’ approach is indefensible. No hope. Nothing but failure. It’s an absolute joke.

The Flames SHOULD absolutely be ripping it down and rebuilding, but their dumbasses will probably try some weak ass “re-tool” and acquire pieces for “now” and will end up right back where we always are. This team’s philosophy does not work, and it is amazing to me that they continue to stick to it.

Side note - just listening to Wills earlier today on the Fan and he’s pretty much saying “yes, we can re-tool and become a cup contender - it just takes all of bad players becoming good players”...

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

This could apply to us just as much as the Oilers.

We sucked, traded Iginla and Bouw (got nothing in return) and then went right back to spending to the cap ceiling.

Both teams are just horribly managed. At this stage though, the Flames’ approach is indefensible. No hope. Nothing but failure. It’s an absolute joke.

The Flames SHOULD absolutely be ripping it down and rebuilding, but their dumbasses will probably try some weak ass “re-tool” and acquire pieces for “now” and will end up right back where we always are. This team’s philosophy does not work, and it is amazing to me that they continue to stick to it.

Side note - just listening to Wills earlier today on the Fan and he’s pretty much saying “yes, we can re-tool and become a cup contender - it just takes all of bad players becoming good players”...

Why start the tear down during Covid when you will get the worst return and the draft is going to be very underwhelming with no real chance for scouting this year?

Trade some of the core to shake up the team this offseason and if that doesn't work tear it down the season after that when things are back to normal.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Why start the tear down during Covid when you will get the worst return and the draft is going to be very underwhelming with no real chance for scouting this year?

Trade some of the core to shake up the team this offseason and if that doesn't work tear it down the season after that when things are back to normal.

Because contracts matter.

If we don’t trade Johnny, he walks in free agency. If we delay until after free agency starts, he has a trade list where he can specify 5 teams he can get dealt to.

The sooner you start the process, the less time is wasted. If we get returns at say, 80 cents on the dollar today rather than full value in the summer we’re still likely worse for the remainder of this season which improves the value of our own draft picks for this season.

Delaying does what? Someone earlier posted that the returns in the off-season are generally not any better for players with term. The Flames can also boost the value of players like Gio and Johnny by retaining value today to help teams fit into their cap-structure for this year’s playoff race and flexibility for next season.

[Vinny01]

Listening to Adnan talk about his new gig on Monday night Raw I feel extra bad that Peter Klein is not able to interview him about this new job.

Pretty cool that Virk got this job and it could be a launch pad for him into the entertainment business.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Listening to Adnan talk about his new gig on Monday night Raw I feel extra bad that Peter Klein is not able to interview him about this new job.

Pretty cool that Virk got this job and it could be a launch pad for him into the entertainment business.

Yeah. I haven’t listened since they cut him & Jay.

It’s a waste of time. I even ordered one of the meal kits that they were pumping to support local businesses.

It was one of the worst items of food I’ve ever ordered and completely disorganized from top to bottom.

Much like the Fan.

[InglewoodFan]

Is Jim Rome back on 960? I just pulled up the feed on the Radioplayer app to listen to the Jays game, and it's Rome. Kinda odd, but maybe they don't have rights to stream the ball game so they are putting Rome on in its place.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by InglewoodFan

Is Jim Rome back on 960? I just pulled up the feed on the Radioplayer app to listen to the Jays game, and it's Rome. Kinda odd, but maybe they don't have rights to stream the ball game so they are putting Rome on in its place.

They don’t have the rights to stream Blue Jays game so they broadcast an American feed online.

[hurtin_albertan]

Random thought occurred to me last night. What ever happened to Mike Richards? Last I heard of him he said he was starting something new called “Raw Mike Richards” but I can’t find any current audio of him on the web. Is he still in the broadcasting biz?

[Jiri Hrdina]

According to this he’s hosting a morning show in Ontario
https://sauga960am.ca/timetable/even...richards-show/

I suspect he’s had to significantly change his humour. A lot of his stuff, looking back, was pretty offensive

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

According to this he’s hosting a morning show in Ontario
https://sauga960am.ca/timetable/even...richards-show/

I suspect he’s had to significantly change his humour. A lot of his stuff, looking back, was pretty offensive

A lot of it was offensive, some purile, some just dumb.

But the Miikka Kiprusoff "interviews" were very, very funny to me.


"I STOPPED THEM ALL!!!"

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by TheSquatch

A lot of it was offensive, some purile, some just dumb.

But the Miikka Kiprusoff "interviews" were very, very funny to me.


"I STOPPED THEM ALL!!!"

Steve Armitage impressions absolutely slayed me.

[N-E-B]

I miss Mike Richards. Some of his humour didn’t always land and he could be offside from time to time but I think for the most part he was pretty funny.