High-Profile Sexual Abuse Epidemic

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

Its sadly very true. Heres a link to an article with a lot more of the tweets than what Cruz put out, including his correspondence with Huston Huddleston, a man convicted of posessing child porn.
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@...for-baby-groot



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Page doesn't exist.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Page doesn't exist.

Even if it did would you want to read anything that was posted on that site?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

I have no problem with edgy jokes, unless of course you were "joking" about all the dead babies you yourself had murdered and how awesome it made you feel. Then I would get justifiably suspicious.

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Oh it all makes sense now. Only the guilty people should be investigated when they make jokes.

Since I’m not a baby murderer it’s cool for me to make dead baby jokes but if an actual dead baby murderer posts a joke then that’s not ok?

[FunkMasterFlame]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Page doesn't exist.

Sorry about that, try this one.

https://bit.ly/2uEUfxW

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[FunkMasterFlame]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Oh it all makes sense now. Only the guilty people should be investigated when they make jokes.

Since I’m not a baby murderer it’s cool for me to make dead baby jokes but if an actual dead baby murderer posts a joke then that’s not ok?

Context matters. If you cant tell the difference between making generic dead baby jokes and bragging about all the dead babies youve murdered I dont know what to tell you.

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[icecube]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

Sorry about that, try this one.

https://bit.ly/2uEUfxW

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Maybe it's just me but it looks like he's trolling back with hyperbole at some conspiracy Twitter account that accused him of being an actual pedophile. In that context it does seem like you're blowing this way out of proportion.

[FunkMasterFlame]

Originally Posted by icecube

Maybe it's just me but it looks like he's trolling back with hyperbole at some conspiracy Twitter account that accused him of being an actual pedophile. In that context it does seem like you're blowing this way out of proportion.

Which one are you talking about? There are dozens of tweets from multiple years there.



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[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Jeez where'd all the free speech advocates disappear to? Weird.

I'm a free speech advocate. I don't think Gunn should be prosecuted, run out of Hollywood, or anything but I'm just looking at this from the business side. If I run a company and it's brought to my attention that one of my employees made that volume of disturbing and tweets regardless of their intentions or motives, I would immediately call for them to be fired. I don't care if he's a good guy over beers as in this day and age I can't afford to employ smoking guns like that and quite honestly anyone that thinks those are funny and a good idea is not the type of person I would like to work with. I could kind of understand if those tweets came from a 20-something guy that hasn't grown up yet but the guy was in his 40's when he made them which I find a little disturbing.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm a free speech advocate. I don't think Gunn should be prosecuted, run out of Hollywood, or anything but I'm just looking at this from the business side. If I run a company and it's brought to my attention that one of my employees made that volume of disturbing and tweets regardless of their intentions or motives, I would immediately call for them to be fired. I don't care if he's a good guy over beers as in this day and age I can't afford to employ smoking guns like that and quite honestly anyone that thinks those are funny and a good idea is not the type of person I would like to work with. I could kind of understand if those tweets came from a 20-something guy that hasn't grown up yet but the guy was in his 40's when he made them which I find a little disturbing.

And if taken in context to the other kind of shock material he was doing at the time then it seems a lot less disturbing. Problem is we're looking at this with the #metoo mentality that's permeating pop culture at the moment.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Its Disney's choice. Obviously they are afraid of the bottom line.

Yeah, but how does Disney translate online outrage to bottom line? What's the conversion rate of angry tweets to dollars?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Yeah, but how does Disney translate online outrage to bottom line? What's the conversion rate of angry tweets to dollars?

Side note: you should probably stop looking at this in the bubble of twitter, as looking only at the # of twitter users in the world basically ignores how this stuff can be picked up in the media and travel by word of mouth.

Twitter is not a vacuum.

[CliffFletcher]

I'm aware that lazy journalists looking for something contentious to write about routinely cite twitter. Journalists are far from immune to believing issues that loom large in their little world have significance in the wider world.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

And if taken in context to the other kind of shock material he was doing at the time then it seems a lot less disturbing. Problem is we're looking at this with the #metoo mentality that's permeating pop culture at the moment.

If that's the kind of "shock material" he was doing I would question his fit with the Disney brand.

[RichKlit]

I’m starting to get suspicious of all the suspicious people who are suspicious of the other people and their suspicious opinions.

[FunkMasterFlame]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

I’m starting to get suspicious of all the suspicious people who are suspicious of the other people and their suspicious opinions.

Thats very suspicious of you

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[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Yeah, but how does Disney translate online outrage to bottom line? What's the conversion rate of angry tweets to dollars?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If that's the kind of "shock material" he was doing I would question his fit with the Disney brand.

to answer both of these, these are what 7-figure executives are paid to do.
Why did he fit with Disney when he was hired and why doesn't he fit with them now.

[Wormius]

Is this is the new trend? Intentionally Ignoring past indiscretions as a kind of future exit strategy?

On the other hand, as cringe-worthy as some of the early Icelandic thread shows, hopefully everybody has grown up since, so how long can you judge them for that content?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Is this is the new trend? Intentionally Ignoring past indiscretions as a kind of future exit strategy?

On the other hand, as cringe-worthy as some of the early Icelandic thread shows, hopefully everybody has grown up since, so how long can you judge them for that content?

I don’t think comments about raping and killing children is quite on par with posting pictures of pretty girls and using it as a way to lure tourists.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don’t think comments about raping and killing children is quite on par with posting pictures of pretty girls and using it as a way to lure tourists.

I guess it depends on your definition. Making a comment that a random girls’ lips “need some cream on them” is pretty over the top. As over the top as raping and killing children? No.

The common thread between them is they’re (obviously?) jokes, so the question is: is there a limit to what you can joke about, and I think 99% of comedians would say no.

End of the day though, people just need to be more aware of what they say online, the fact that it isn’t said in a bubble, and that there can be real life consequences (and you’re not going to know what they are until they happen to you).

In the same week, Disney fired a director for making child rape jokes years ago. The Brewers kept a player who used a lot of racist language years ago. It’s not just about what you said.

[zamler]

WTF is going on in Hollywood? Another, well I'm not even going to describe it just watch. NSFW to say the least.

NSFW!

NSFW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omLYjlZaZWg