06-05-2018, 11:59 AM
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#1561
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Imagine Cecchinato makes a major final before Zverev, Goffin, Thiem, Kyrgios....would be a pretty damning indictment of NextGen.
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06-05-2018, 12:12 PM
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#1562
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Imagine Cecchinato makes a major final before Zverev, Goffin, Thiem, Kyrgios....would be a pretty damning indictment of NextGen.
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Zverev just turned 21, so I wouldn't lump him in with the other three you mentioned Senator. He also has won multiple Masters 1000 tournaments and none of the other guys have done that I believe. Dimitrov has yet to reach a Grand Slam final, at least Milos can make that claim.
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06-05-2018, 12:32 PM
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#1563
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, but I feel like we know more or less what we're going to get from Zverev at this point. He's going to be a top player for a long time, possibly a #1, and might win a major title or two along the way. But he's never going to be a dominant force in the sport for any stretch. I suspect he's going to end up with a legacy pretty similar to Andy Murray's.
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06-05-2018, 12:45 PM
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#1564
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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I believe the correct retort to this is "Someone who's career will still be happening this time next year, unlike you"
https://twitter.com/user/status/1004043513401446401
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06-05-2018, 01:23 PM
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#1565
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
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Just really nothing to be gained from that tweet - In other news, Genie has started working at the Mouratoglou Academy in France, it's going to be a long road back I'm afraid.
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06-05-2018, 01:36 PM
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#1566
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, but I feel like we know more or less what we're going to get from Zverev at this point. He's going to be a top player for a long time, possibly a #1, and might win a major title or two along the way. But he's never going to be a dominant force in the sport for any stretch. I suspect he's going to end up with a legacy pretty similar to Andy Murray's.
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It really is amazing how spoiled us tennis fans have been with Roger, Rafa, and Novak. I think you are right CHL, while Zverev looks to be the best of the young crop coming up (although Shapo will definitely have something to say about that), it's tough to see him being as dominant of a player as the Big Three. The thing is, Novak just turned 31 and Rafa just turned 32, they could still be hunting majors for the next 3-5 years.
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06-05-2018, 02:43 PM
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#1567
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Franchise Player
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The thing with Denis is he's already a top 20 player on hard courts. But unlike Zverev and his polished and developed game, Denis is super raw - we haven't seen what we're going to get yet. Nothing has really come together for him fully, except his forehand. He's still improving with his serve, footwork, net game and his shot variety, and he has plenty of room to get better in those areas. He's also shown signs of improvement. Maybe he never gets there and all the apparent potential is illusory, but until he's 21 or 22, we won't be able to say. If he ends up disappointing, he'll probably be a good player for a while and a regular threat to make semis of big tournaments. If that potential is even mostly realized, he could be a guy who enjoys a period of dominance while his physical tools are at their peak and win a bunch of majors.
We'll have to wait and see of course. But it's worth noting (and no one is suggesting that he is a comparable talent because no one is a comparable talent) that Federer first made the top 20 when he was about Denis's age, and Denis was two matches shy of doing it this week. He'll probably get there by Wimbledon. And all of this while he's still learning. Even after the Nadal victory at Rogers last year and then the USOTC, my most optimistic projection had him in this spot by maybe this time next year.
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06-05-2018, 04:39 PM
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#1568
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Tough news for Andy Murray means good news for Vasek (grass court tourney warm-up for Wimbledon in the Netherlands).
https://twitter.com/user/status/1004106291130744833
Last edited by dash_pinched; 06-05-2018 at 04:45 PM.
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06-05-2018, 05:15 PM
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#1569
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
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Time for Ms. One Year Wonder to retire and become a professional instagram model.
Canadian and hot and yet so hard to cheer for....
Last edited by Johnny Makarov; 06-05-2018 at 05:18 PM.
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06-06-2018, 08:05 AM
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#1570
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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How many times has Nadal been broken in this tournament? Or has he.
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06-06-2018, 08:13 AM
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#1571
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Wow, Muguruza crushed Sharapova 6-2 6-1.
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06-06-2018, 08:17 AM
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#1572
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to dash_pinched For This Useful Post:
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06-06-2018, 08:17 AM
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#1573
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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^^^ Nadal actually gets broken a couple times every match, but he usually breaks the opponent even more. That's the thing about clay, a lot harder holding serve than on other surfaces.
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06-06-2018, 08:21 AM
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#1574
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Thanks Sens. This is the first game I've watched him.
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06-06-2018, 08:29 AM
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#1575
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CedarMeter
Thanks Sens. This is the first game I've watched him.
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Nadal has started slow each match this tournament. This isn't like last year when he was so above the competition no one was touching him. He's looked off so far, I don't know if he's worn out but I fully expect him to withdraw from Wimbledon.
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06-06-2018, 08:50 AM
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#1576
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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This has been like a women's match, both guys struggling to hold serve. Schwartzman serving for the first set though...
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06-06-2018, 08:59 AM
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#1577
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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What a crazy sequence this is, on set point no less.
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06-06-2018, 09:02 AM
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#1578
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#1 Goaltender
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where is the punch coming from this guy's Gaudreau-sized frame? is it even possible to keep that up for another couple hours?
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06-06-2018, 09:04 AM
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#1579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Schwartzman pound for pound has as much power as anyone. Must have ridiculously strong legs to drive his shots.
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06-06-2018, 09:04 AM
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#1580
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack
where is the punch coming from this guy's Gaudreau-sized frame? is it even possible to keep that up for another couple hours?
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I think he can do it, Schwartzman reminds me of Hewitt, he was very impressive beating Cilic at last year's US Open, I think Rafa is in for a battle today.
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