2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Love

(not sure where to put this, but....)

I'm not sure Hanifin doesn't have the lowest ceiling of our big four young defenseman

Given how dreadfully wrong you normally are I will take this as confirmation in what I've seen: hanifin is a better overall player than TJ brodie, and will end up as one of the two best out of the 4.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Love

(not sure where to put this, but....)

I'm not sure Hanifin doesn't have the lowest ceiling of our big four young defenseman

Are your expectations for Hanifin lower than everybody else or you you really high on the other three young defenders?

[sureLoss]

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
If Nashville lands Matt Duchene from Ottawa, expect Winnipeg to make a major push for #CBJ Artemi Panarin. #GoJetsGo would hate to part with him, but possible Columbus native Jack Roslovic could be part of the return package to Blue Jackets.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It's difficult to say because I think Hanifin is probably closest to his ceiling of the four.

Hanifin just turned 22 and is about to play his 300th NHL game and has over 100 career points as a defenseman.

If you mean closer to his ceiling time-wise because he is slightly older than the others and will reach his ceiling sooner in a temporal sense, then OK. But I don't think he is anywhere close to his ceiling. He is still the age of many prospects but is an NHL veteran that has shown an upward trajectory and constant improvement in all 4 of his NHL seasons so far.

All do respect to Kylington, Andersson and Valimaki, but they have a lot to prove before they can be the same tier as Hanifin. In my opinion of course.

[PsYcNeT]

I mean, technically because he's ahead of the other three, Hanifin more or less by default is closer to his ceiling. That doesn't mean that it is higher or lower than the others however.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Buff

Are your expectations for Hanifin lower than everybody else or you you really high on the other three young defenders?

Higher on the other 3. Kylington's potential just blows me away, I like Valimaki more all around that Hanifin and Rasmus provides a different element from all of our other defenseman. It's kind of scary to think about how good these guys will all be in a few seasons.

[GranteedEV]

I have no clue who has the highest ceiling. Hanifin could plateau or he could be the next Hedman. Valimaki could become more of a defensive specialist or he could become the next 2018-19 Mattias Ekholm. Andersson could continue to struggle with his gaps or he could become the next Drew Doughty. Kylington could continue to never get his coach's trust or he could become the next Kris Letang.

What I do believe is that we should be standing pat on all seven of our major blue line pieces for the next couple of years and only moving Stone. We need the older guys during this cup window and we need the younger guys during a second cup window. Can't get too enamoured by forwards, nor can we get too eager to put a kid into too high a role if the cup, and not just the playoffs, are the goal.

[Racki]

Two sleeper guys I could see here - Jeff Carter or Eric Staal

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
If Nashville lands Matt Duchene from Ottawa, expect Winnipeg to make a major push for #CBJ Artemi Panarin. #GoJetsGo would hate to part with him, but possible Columbus native Jack Roslovic could be part of the return package to Blue Jackets.

That's pretty interesting. With the way St. Louis is playing finishing first in the Central has never been more important.

Both teams load up and then one of them out in the second round and potentially the first round if St.Louis keeps their level of play up.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I have no clue who has the highest ceiling. Hanifin could plateau or he could be the next Hedman. Valimaki could become more of a defensive specialist or he could become the next 2018-19 Mattias Ekholm. Andersson could continue to struggle with his gaps or he could become the next Drew Doughty. Kylington could continue to never get his coach's trust or he could become the next Kris Letang.

What I do believe is that we should be standing pat on all seven of our major blue line pieces for the next couple of years and only moving Stone. We need the older guys during this cup window and we need the younger guys during a second cup window. Can't get too enamoured by forwards, nor can we get too eager to put a kid into too high a role if the cup, and not just the playoffs, are the goal.

Well, since ceiling is the best possible outcome, and assuming you've listed the comparable best possible outcomes, Hanifin has the highest, because Hedman is the best out of those guys.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Racki

Two sleeper guys I could see here - Jeff Carter or Eric Staal

I hope not! Signed for 3 more years at $5.27M.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, since ceiling is the best possible outcome, and assuming you've listed the comparable best possible outcomes, Hanifin has the highest, because Hedman is the best out of those guys.

Doughty is the best out of those guys, even though I think Andersson is the worst of our guys.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I disagree, I think Hanifin has a lot more to give. He's 22 years old.

I agree that he has more to give. I just don't think it is quite as much as the other three. After tomorrow he will have already played 300 NHL games—he is likely closer to what he will be in the long term than any one of Andersson, Kylington or Valimaki. Having said that, I think it is unlikely that any of the three will pass him.

[JurassicTunga12]

Feels like Mike Hoffman is flying under the radar a bit? I think he'd be a great add. Dude can snipe the puck. Obviously wouldn't cost as much as the big names like Duchene.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
If Nashville lands Matt Duchene from Ottawa, expect Winnipeg to make a major push for #CBJ Artemi Panarin. #GoJetsGo would hate to part with him, but possible Columbus native Jack Roslovic could be part of the return package to Blue Jackets.

I hope so. Winnipeg and Edmonton are the last places Panarin will want to be. If he ends up with the Jets it would likely be a massively wasted acquisition.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I agree that he has more to give. I just don't think it is quite as much as the other three. After tomorrow he will have already played 300 NHL games—he is likely closer to what he will be in the long term than any one of Andersson, Kylington or Valimaki. Having said that, I think it is unlikely that any of the three will pass him.

That doesn't mean he's reached his ceiling though.

[killer_carlson]

Simmonds please

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

That doesn't mean he's reached his ceiling though.

I absolutely did NOT say that he had. Read more carefully: I said he is CLOSEST to his ceiling, and at no point projected what that ceiling might be.

[dirk diggler]

its just nice that the Flames have young solid D, its been awhile since the Flames have developed dmen.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by AC

I hope not! Signed for 3 more years at $5.27M.

If we managed to get that retained or if we got a couple of the bigger contracts off the roster like Frolik/Neal then I would be on board with Jeff Carter. The guy is a competitor and one of the few Kings that plays to win.

That being said I would be more comfortable picking up Eric Stall for a playoff run. I also think we could get him on a pretty decent contract like 2 years @ 3-4 mil. Like our version of Matt Cullen in Pittsburgh.