Ring Road To Nowhere

[Mike Vernon]

If the government can annex my house why can't they do this with this land?

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Mike Vernon

If the government can annex my house why can't they do this with this land?

Reserve land falls under different laws than other land.

[meanmachine13]

I live fairly close to the edge of Tsuu Tina land and I cant wait for this ring road to be built. To be able to bypass 14th street/glenmore couldnt happen soon enough.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Reserve land falls under different laws than other land.

Which is pretty ridiculous if you ask me... it clearly goes against net public benefit to NOT have emminent domain.

[TheGrimm]

Personally I wonder if any plan that has the ring road connect through to 37th/Sarcee is worthwhile.. The issue as I understand it is to remove congestion on glenmore and 14th street and potentially elbow.. To me all this doesn't really address this as I would bet the majority of this traffic is heading into the core. How does a ring road to sarcee help me get downtown faster? The amount of traffic using this route may not be as large as expected. It needs to connect up to Crowchild for me to get behind it.


In my opinion.

[ken0042]

That's just it- the Ring Road isn't supposed to be a route into downtown. The point is that it keeps the traffic that is going through, out of the city and off 14th, Crowchild, etc.

For example, from the SE I would take it to go to Banff, as opposed to being another vehicle on Deerfoot and Glenmore.

[para transit fellow]

indeed, the folks over at skyscraper.com noted that the SW ring road is just going to bring all that traffic onto crowchild trail...

So Crowchild and glenmore is going to need an upgrade if anyone is going to take it into the core

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by SebC

Which is pretty ridiculous if you ask me... it clearly goes against net public benefit to NOT have emminent domain.

Like it or not, native reserves are federal land and therefore not subject to provincial law. It would be the same thing if there was an air force base there or any other federal building.

This is the same reason that they can smoke in casinos on reserve but not off reserve in Alberta.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Like it or not, native reserves are federal land and therefore not subject to provincial law. It would be the same thing if there was an air force base there or any other federal building.

This is the same reason that they can smoke in casinos on reserve but not off reserve in Alberta.

I'm pretty sure the Canadian government can't use emminent domain on the reserves either. Otherwise, negotiations would likely be much easier.

[Skootenbeeten]

I live in Somerset so I am quite happy about the possibility of this road being made but I sure wish this province poured money into a decent rail system. I see the thousands of cars and think of how much better the city would be with an extensive elevated rail system. It is hard to get anywhere by foot in the city so cutting dowwn on the miles of roads and parking lots would be great. Not to mention the money saved on constant road work.

Ahwell maybe just move to Europe, you think land is cheap in Greece? lol

[Katie]

Is this a Led Zep song?

[Resolute 14]

Just a thought, but if get everywhere on foot was important for you, moving to Somerset was a rather poor decision.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Just a thought, but if get everywhere on foot was important for you, moving to Somerset was a rather poor decision.

Yeah becuase someone gripes about the availability of public transport they need a drive by on their choice of where to live? The poster could see thousands of cars every day as they drive the other direction on an empty road to work and still have the same thoughts. Or as they walk.

I'm certainly not a fantastic poster and often just post things for my own amusement. What I'm about to say makes me even more hypocritical, but what a waste of time post, lame attempt to be a jerk and a perfect example as to why online forums end up sucking.

[TheGrimm]

I wish the City or Province would provide some incentive for people to do more of a work/live scenario. Some kind of program to help people move closer to their work would be great! I would love to live closer to my work, but the thought of the 30-50k in moving expenses is definitely holding me back. Maybe a tax write off for moving expenses going from >x distance to <x distance to work?

For example, if I am > 20km from work and move to within 5km or 10km I can write off a portion (or all) of my moving expenses?

[jammies]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

Yeah becuase someone gripes about the availability of public transport they need a drive by on their choice of where to live?

"An extensive elevated rail system" to service suburbs like Somerset would cost an order of magnitude more than the current LRT system, which, if I recall correctly, we already can't build everywhere needed because of cost.

Somerset? Why don't we just build an elevated train to High River, with a stop at Okotoks. Do you even know where Somerset is? I hardly think pointing out that the OP is going to have a lot more luck with moving closer to the core for better public transit access than waiting for a never-will-happen train is some kind of "drive by".

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by jammies

"An extensive elevated rail system" to service suburbs like Somerset would cost an order of magnitude more than the current LRT system, which, if I recall correctly, we already can't build everywhere needed because of cost.

Somerset? Why don't we just build an elevated train to High River, with a stop at Okotoks. Do you even know where Somerset is? I hardly think pointing out that the OP is going to have a lot more luck with moving closer to the core for better public transit access than waiting for a never-will-happen train is some kind of "drive by".

Somerset already has great transit access compared to most of the rest of the city - there's an LRT stop there and buses that actually run outside of peak hours. To get better transit service than that in Calgary you pretty much have to go right downtown.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by TheGrimm

I wish the City or Province would provide some incentive for people to do more of a work/live scenario. Some kind of program to help people move closer to their work would be great! I would love to live closer to my work, but the thought of the 30-50k in moving expenses is definitely holding me back. Maybe a tax write off for moving expenses going from >x distance to <x distance to work?

For example, if I am > 20km from work and move to within 5km or 10km I can write off a portion (or all) of my moving expenses?

Pay for the moving expenses yourself. It's to your benefit to live closer to work. Why should the taxpayers pay for it? WRGMG: freeloaders.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

Yeah becuase someone gripes about the availability of public transport they need a drive by on their choice of where to live? The poster could see thousands of cars every day as they drive the other direction on an empty road to work and still have the same thoughts. Or as they walk.

I'm certainly not a fantastic poster and often just post things for my own amusement. What I'm about to say makes me even more hypocritical, but what a waste of time post, lame attempt to be a jerk and a perfect example as to why online forums end up sucking.

Uhh, thanks?

Surely you must realize that complaining about the difficulty in getting around a large city without a vehicle is rather silly when you choose to live in the far-flung burbs, right? Doubly so when they live in a neighbourhood that has easy access to both the LRT and a well developed shopping core?

My comment was quite to the point, actually. If walking everywhere is important to you, then you're going to have to live in the inner city. Living in the burbs offers space and cheaper housing prices. But the tradeoff is that you will have to accept the automobile culture. You can't have both.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by jammies

"An extensive elevated rail system" to service suburbs like Somerset would cost an order of magnitude more than the current LRT system, which, if I recall correctly, we already can't build everywhere needed because of cost.

Somerset? Why don't we just build an elevated train to High River, with a stop at Okotoks. Do you even know where Somerset is? I hardly think pointing out that the OP is going to have a lot more luck with moving closer to the core for better public transit access than waiting for a never-will-happen train is some kind of "drive by".

I know exactly where Somerset is. Maybe asking the question "what's wrong with the current system" or "wtf do we need an extensive elevated rail system for" vs. moving to Somerset was a rather poor decision..

One question is a reasonable response the other is just being. . . .

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

I know exactly where Somerset is. Maybe asking the question "what's wrong with the current system" or "wtf do we need an extensive elevated rail system for" vs. maybe you should move or maybe you should have thought of that first.

One question is a reasonable response the other is just being. . . .

In your opinion.

Below is an appropriate response that mentions nothing about telling someone to move, are you posting in the correct thread?

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Just a thought, but if get everywhere on foot was important for you, moving to Somerset was a rather poor decision.