03-06-2020, 07:05 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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We could try to offer sheet barzal? Not sure it would work but failing that we'd pretty much have to hope he requests a trade to Lou and we put in the best package.
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03-06-2020, 08:38 PM
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#142
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
NYI has about $13-14M in space next year, about 8 spots to fill including Barzal and a backup goalie. It might become a difficult negotiation if Barzal is unhappy.
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Wouldn't surprise me if the negotiation is a grind similar to Marner or even Nylander, but I don't see any scenario where the Islanders trade Barzal. Especially with Tavares leaving not that far in the rear view.
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03-06-2020, 09:03 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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I feel like if you offer sheet Barzal, you’d end up buried in a shallow grave. That’s one GM I would not #### with.
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03-06-2020, 11:14 PM
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#144
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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If Barzal is traded to a team not based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, it will have had to have been for a ridiculous overpayment. Otherwise... this is a can't-miss opportunity.
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03-07-2020, 01:08 PM
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#145
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by stang
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You probably wouldn't understand this unless your grew up in Edmonton, but Bryan Hall has been there on the radio for like 60 years. This guys obviously hasn't listened to 630 Ched.
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03-19-2020, 05:30 PM
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#146
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vernon, BC
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Apologies if this is being discussed elsewhere, but how does the projected salary cap change upon the presumed cancellation of the season? Most importantly, how does it work in our favour and how does it screw the No Good Oilers?
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03-19-2020, 05:45 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Delthefunky
Apologies if this is being discussed elsewhere, but how does the projected salary cap change upon the presumed cancellation of the season? Most importantly, how does it work in our favour and how does it screw the No Good Oilers?
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No one knows. The CBA provides a guideline that uses the previous season's revenue to set the following season's salary cap, but it also has provisions where things can be adjusted up or down based on other known or expected outside factors.
If the remainder of this season is cancelled, it will have significant impacts on the HRR for this season, but if things get back to normal by the end of summer and they're able to play a full season next year, the HRR for next season shouldn't drop too much (although, it could because of people being afraid to go to large gatherings and/or tightening their budgets after the economic impact of businesses closing or slowing down for an extended period of time).
It's still way too early to predict anything.
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03-19-2020, 07:23 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
It's still way too early to predict anything.
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I predict that season ticket renewals will be down substantially in Calgary next season.
(assuming there is a season)
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04-27-2020, 04:47 PM
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#149
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Franchise Player
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Is there any chance that the 2020-21 NHL cap will be anywhere near $84M?
Can they put 50% in escrow?
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04-27-2020, 06:06 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
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I think that the chances are that the cap will remain stagnant for a year, with a large escrow percentage to reflect the loss of revenue. The following year with the addition of Seattle and (hopefully) a full return to in-person viewing, there would be a jump in the cap.
I'm not sure if they will have to give a compliance buy-out to teams in order to make it under the cap for this coming year.
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04-27-2020, 06:41 PM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
I think that the chances are that the cap will remain stagnant for a year, with a large escrow percentage to reflect the loss of revenue. The following year with the addition of Seattle and (hopefully) a full return to in-person viewing, there would be a jump in the cap.
I'm not sure if they will have to give a compliance buy-out to teams in order to make it under the cap for this coming year.
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Will the TV contracts be at the level they were before the crisis? Huge amount of companies that would be buying advertising will not be financially sound enough to have big advert budgets (airlines, Hotels/Tourism, Autos, Oil and Gas).
The best NHL franchises .. The Canadian teams will be taking in revenue with 70 cents Canadian dollars and paying in USD.
People coming off the dole will likely not be spending as much and not have as much disposable income as the taxes that they will be paying will be significantly higher than we can currently imagine.
In Canada $19B / month for the CERB program!!! The bill will be due when the NHL starts up again.
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04-27-2020, 06:53 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Last word from reliable media peeps: $81.5m cap for another 2-3ish seasons.
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04-28-2020, 09:46 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Freeway
Last word from reliable media peeps: $81.5m cap for another 2-3ish seasons.
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So business as usual? Before the crisis Alberta was heading into a recession. The rest of North America was economically on fire with a endless increase in disposable income.
Now it looks pretty certain that Canada is heading into a recession.
How would NHL be immune to this?
Do the Flames, Oilers, Senators and Jets survive based on the big American TV $$ coming in?
70 cent dollar... will the Canadian teams be able to "boost" revenue by the 15-20% needed to stay where they were over the last 3 or so seasons? Or will they target the lower end of the Salary cap to contain costs and survive for the next 3 or 4 years.
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04-28-2020, 10:55 AM
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#154
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
So business as usual? Before the crisis Alberta was heading into a recession. The rest of North America was economically on fire with a endless increase in disposable income.
Now it looks pretty certain that Canada is heading into a recession.
How would NHL be immune to this?
Do the Flames, Oilers, Senators and Jets survive based on the big American TV $$ coming in?
70 cent dollar... will the Canadian teams be able to "boost" revenue by the 15-20% needed to stay where they were over the last 3 or so seasons? Or will they target the lower end of the Salary cap to contain costs and survive for the next 3 or 4 years.
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Keep in mind that the salary cap number is pretty much meaningless as far as how much money the teams actually pay. The players always get exactly 50% of league revenue. Assuming revenue is going to drop all this means is that escrow is going to mean a player with a $5 million contract actually is going to take home more like $4 million once it all settles.
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04-28-2020, 06:34 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Arsenal14
Keep in mind that the salary cap number is pretty much meaningless as far as how much money the teams actually pay. The players always get exactly 50% of league revenue. Assuming revenue is going to drop all this means is that escrow is going to mean a player with a $5 million contract actually is going to take home more like $4 million once it all settles.
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Everyone with a signed contract would get a greater portion of the 50% if there was no escrow and the Salary cap actually reflected 50% of the revenue.
Having an inflated cap is a gift to from Gio and Gaudreau and Monahan to whatever FA the Flames sign this year.
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04-28-2020, 06:42 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Freeway
Last word from reliable media peeps: $81.5m cap for another 2-3ish seasons.
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This seems beyond unrealistic if we’re talking about a real cap calculated as a % of hockey revenues.
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04-28-2020, 09:21 PM
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#157
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damn onions
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yeah.... I would think the NHL better buckle up for some surprising revenue figures. To the downside.
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04-29-2020, 07:53 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
This seems beyond unrealistic if we’re talking about a real cap calculated as a % of hockey revenues.
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I think they are throwing out the rule book to a certain extent. That said, they can keep the cap as is for a hypothetical number, but escrow will account for the actual salaries.
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04-29-2020, 08:08 AM
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#159
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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How could this impact the salaries of RFAs going forward? I assume that the numbers we saw last offseason will be the maximum, or would they even be seen as outliers?
More importantly, will we be able to get our RFAs signed at a reduced cost over the next few years? (Mangiapane, Tkachuk, Dube)
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04-29-2020, 08:40 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
How could this impact the salaries of RFAs going forward? I assume that the numbers we saw last offseason will be the maximum, or would they even be seen as outliers?
More importantly, will we be able to get our RFAs signed at a reduced cost over the next few years? (Mangiapane, Tkachuk, Dube)
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Mangiapane and Dube will not be getting big contracts... but they are not top tier RFAs.
Tkachuk has to get a qualifying offer of 9 M. so no bargain there.... under the current rules.
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