02-16-2020, 02:06 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Wow Greene returned a 2nd??
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02-16-2020, 02:06 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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2021 2nd is a key point for me. Much less valuable than a 2020 1st at this point.
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02-16-2020, 02:14 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes
Kind of establishes Hamonic‘s value.
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Kind of.
Green is in his late 30s.
He's also currently uninjured.
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02-16-2020, 02:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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I'd love a 2nd for Hamonic. But I think teams have to be sure he's healthy first.
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02-16-2020, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Hamonic should be more valuable than Greene.
On a side note, impressive career for Greene with the Devils. 923 games with them.
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02-16-2020, 02:48 PM
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#8
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I'd love a 2nd for Hamonic. But I think teams have to be sure he's healthy first.
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Hamonic is easily worth more than a 2nd. Kris Russell returned more than that and Hamonic is more highly thought of than Russell was. Hamonic should get a 1st imo
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02-16-2020, 02:56 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Hamonic is easily worth more than a 2nd. Kris Russell returned more than that and Hamonic is more highly thought of than Russell was. Hamonic should get a 1st imo
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Maybe, but the rental market is definitely getting softer than in years past.
Maybe a conditional first, but I can't see an outright first. Of course, it's possible a team will start to get desperate close to the deadline, but GMs seems to be learning, at least a little bit.
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02-16-2020, 03:01 PM
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Franchise Player
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The strength of draft plays a factor as well, this draft is supposed to be deep so it'll likely make getting one much harder, I don't see Hamonic netting that much.
He won't be traded anyways though IMO.
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02-16-2020, 03:53 PM
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Franchise Player
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Christ if that is what Andy Greene is worth BT should be able to get a decent haul for Hamonic and Brodie.
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02-16-2020, 04:00 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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If Andy Greene had separated his shoulder last week, do we think he gets this same return, or do we think that would impact his value?
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02-16-2020, 04:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Hamonic is easily worth more than a 2nd. Kris Russell returned more than that and Hamonic is more highly thought of than Russell was. Hamonic should get a 1st imo
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I'd love more, but I wouldn't do a Cammalleri 2.0 situation where you hold on to him just because you overvalued him.
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02-16-2020, 04:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I'd love more, but I wouldn't do a Cammalleri 2.0 situation where you hold on to him just because you overvalued him.
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If they hang on to him it’s likely because they still want to make the playoffs and/or want to re-sign him
Different situation than the Cammalleri year
We haven’t even really heard that he’s being shopped
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02-16-2020, 05:40 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
2021 2nd is a key point for me. Much less valuable than a 2020 1st at this point.
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Less valuable than a 2021 1st as well.
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02-16-2020, 06:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Nothing against Hamonic, but Greene was the Devils' captain for 5 years, and he's getting back together with Lou who signed him as a undrafted free agent 14 years back, and the Isles need to stock up for the run in the playoffs, not to them.
Bottom line, there are certain intangibles that the Isles are paying for that wouldn't be there with Treliving shopping Hamonic.
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02-16-2020, 06:17 PM
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Franchise Player
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I have given up any hope on intellectual honesty from the this flames management. y guess is that they will not try to get any value by dealing Brodie or hamonic, and will instead try to double down on the mediocre team in place. In fact, I actually think treliving will strike out even in this, but we'll hear a ear load of how close the flames came to landing all the big names moved.
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02-16-2020, 06:41 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Nothing against Hamonic, but Greene was the Devils' captain for 5 years, and he's getting back together with Lou who signed him as a undrafted free agent 14 years back, and the Isles need to stock up for the run in the playoffs, not to them.
Bottom line, there are certain intangibles that the Isles are paying for that wouldn't be there with Treliving shopping Hamonic.
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Intangibles like he's been the lineup for the last week.
I sort of feel like I'm on crazy pills right now.
Everyone knows hamonic has been injured for over a week now, right? He's not just banged up, he's on injured reserve.
Who is trading, let alone top dollar, for an injured player?
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02-16-2020, 06:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Intangibles like he's been the lineup for the last week.
I sort of feel like I'm on crazy pills right now.
Everyone knows hamonic has been injured for over a week now, right? He's not just banged up, he's on injured reserve.
Who is trading, let alone top dollar, for an injured player?
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The Oilers?
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02-16-2020, 06:46 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Intangibles like he's been the lineup for the last week.
I sort of feel like I'm on crazy pills right now.
Everyone knows hamonic has been injured for over a week now, right? He's not just banged up, he's on injured reserve.
Who is trading, let alone top dollar, for an injured player?
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I would still trade him for whatever you can get, unless he is done for the season.
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Islanders acquire Andy Greene from the Devils for David Quenneville and a 2021 2nd
