[News] UPD: Nigel Dawes leaves Avtomobilist after Bill Peters hired as coach

[playmaker]

Originally Posted by Fire

Everyone deserves another chance, including Peters. This is a step towards an inevitable return to the NHL.

This. Craig Berube once called Peter Worrell a monkey. Twenty years later he coached his team to the Stanley Cup.

[Pointman]

Nm

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by DirtyMike

Is this place in Siberia?

No. Siberia is a bit more to the east.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Locke

Are you kidding? Its Russia. I think its actually encouraged.

There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.

[Press Level]

I think that Bill Peters has a long, successful coaching career ahead of him. Just not in the NHL.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Pointman

There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.

You don’t need black people for there to be racism. Sounds like there is some, just directed at different groups.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.

Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.

99% of people are not thinking that IMO. Saying what he did, to whom he said it, strikes me totally as racism and sign of an unintelligent individual.

[Passe La Puck]

Originally Posted by Pointman

There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.

What the hell nonsense is this? Just because there aren't many targets for racism doesn't mean people aren't racist!

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.

Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.

What a terrible post. Instead of asking to turn off the music, he went on a racist rant. Don't pretend going on a racist rant is ok. And then not apologizing to the player directly for it. He didn't even have the balls to apologize to Akim in his statement. Sure, he deserves a second chance. But to say someone can go on a rant saying the N word and think it's not racist is just silly.

[Strange Brew]

Everyone deserves a first chance. Second chances should be earned. I have no insight into what Peters has done since resigning so this isn’t a comment about him.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[Roof-Daddy]

Man, you know you're crappy at hiring coaches when the only coaching job they can get after they leave the Flames is in Russia.

Well, either that or as an assistant in Edmonton, which is even worse.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

What a terrible post. Instead of asking to turn off the music, he went on a racist rant. Don't pretend going on a racist rant is ok. And then not apologizing to the player directly for it. He didn't even have the balls to apologize to Akim in his statement. Sure, he deserves a second chance. But to say someone can go on a rant saying the N word and think it's not racist is just silly.

Have you ever listened to rap music? the "N" word is usually repeated 30 times a song, why is it ok to play that crap in a dressing room full of white hockey players? Peters ranting the "N" word was totally wrong but Akim shouldn't have played it either.

The double standard on the "N" word is tiresome

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Pointman

There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.

I do find it funny that you've equated a lack of races to a lack of racism.

You mean to tell me that all we had to do to conquer racism was eliminate the existence of all those pesky other races. Ethnic cleansing?

Why has nobody thought of this before?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Man, you know you're crappy at hiring coaches when the only coaching job they can get after they leave the Flames is in Russia.

Well, either that or as an assistant in Edmonton, which is even worse.

I think we all know which is worse.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Have you ever listened to rap music? the "N" word is usually repeated 30 times a song, why is it ok to play that crap in a dressing room full of white hockey players? Peters ranting the "N" word was totally wrong but Akim shouldn't have played it either.

The double standard on the "N" word is tiresome

So your take is that this word is actually offensive to white people and it is they who need to be protected from hearing it?

I'm not sure you've thought this one through.

[Yamer]

I feel like we've had this conversation before:

-I don't think what he did was racist.

-Ok, it was a dumb thing to say but have you heard how many times the N-word is in rap music? He was kinda asking for it.

-Ok, maybe he wasn't asking for it, but why is he allowed to play music with the N-word? Also, why can't I say the N-word? I think I have the right to be offended by that and determine how that word is used.

-Ok, so it's a derogatory term perpetuated by discrimination towards black people, which has, in turn, been co-opted by that community as a means of defiance and ownership through art and vernacular.

-The music with the word in it made him do it so I still don't think it's racist.

Reset the circle.

[dino7c]

Nword is just lazy...in rap and elsewhere

get some new material

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Color me crazy, but telling a black hockey player to turn off the music containing the "N" word many times in a dressing room still doesn't strike me a racism. lets face it folks, rap music containing the garbage that it does has no right to screw anyone from a job. Peters got thrown threw the coals for saying what 99% of people would think.

Having said that, I'm glad he's not the flames coach but for other reasons but not because he requested to turn that N... shat off.

Your logic is all wrong. He didn’t say turn that music down, he used the N word in a derogatory fashion towards the music a Black hockey player was listening to. How much more racist can you get? I can’t even imagine saying that word around a Black person, Peters said it straight to his face and used the word in a derogatory fashion. It’s blatant racism and I don’t understand how you can say it isn’t


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[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Pointman

There is no racism in Russian daily life as there are almost no black people over here. Some black athletes who played in Russia did complain about facing racism from sport fans - most of whom are lower-class nazi teenagers. However, in general public there is no racism. Instead, Russians hate middle-asia nations such as Tajik or Kyrgyz, who flooded Russia with cheap migrant workers.

Some black athletes? There are countless stories of Non-white soccer players being harassed in a Russia. Peters will fit right in.


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