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Old 10-11-2020, 09:50 PM   #861
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It's especially right when the Vikings had over 200 yards rushing. Sucks when the game was on the line their offense line basically laid down, but of course had the Seahawks scored and gotten the 2 and won in OT,we'd be saying "Why didn't they go for a 90% likely play when they were gashing the Seahawks all night?". Bigger issue was how easy it was for them to go 90+ yards in 90 seconds. They didn't even need a timeout to do it.
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Old 10-11-2020, 09:56 PM   #862
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Zimmer should have went for it on 4th down. Why not just QB sneak it when it's 4th and inches?
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Old 10-11-2020, 10:13 PM   #863
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Zimmer should have went for it on 4th down. Why not just QB sneak it when it's 4th and inches?
Agree, the call was the right one. tough to stop a QB sneak. Just like wehen Walsh missed the easy kick, the vikings find a way to lose.
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Old 10-11-2020, 10:34 PM   #864
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Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Dimitroff, who saw their team start 0-5 for the first time since 1997 after a Sunday loss to the Carolina Panthers, have been fired.

Team president Rich McKay will assume day-to-day oversight of football operations in the interim, according to a statement Sunday from the Falcons. An interim head coach is expected to be announced Monday.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...roff-0-5-start
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:04 PM   #865
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Zimmer made the right call on 4th imo because of how much his line had been punishing the Seahawks, but kicking the fg would have been fine too. The rb had a walk in touchdown too but chose the wrong gap, watch the replay, if he goes right around the tackle it's like the sea parted

Zimmer also badly badly badly messed up in the Seahawks final drive. He could have left his team with an extra 30 seconds on the clock, and still having a TO left if he called a TO after Seattle's first down to make it goal to go
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:24 AM   #866
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Must NBC play grunge after Seattle scores and Prince after Minnesota scores?
For Seattle, NBC could play Heart or Queensryche.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:31 AM   #867
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Ugh, hate to see that, poor Dak. And I don't need the 150 tight zooms on his face CBS, thanks
Here's a play by play description and in detail explanation of the fracture by Dr. Brian Sutterer.


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Old 10-12-2020, 10:30 AM   #868
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Listening to sportscasters talk about the 4th down decision and consistently and without exception get it entirely wrong, I'm honestly not sure why these people have jobs.
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:45 AM   #869
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Because Monday Morning Quarterbacking is how sportscasters have jobs. We all know if they pick up the first down most of them are praising Zimmer's guts and trust in his guys. The issue remains that Seattle went 94 yards in roughly 90 seconds, including a 4th and 10 conversion. I'm also laughing at the "Well they didn't get the 2 point conversion, makes it an even stupider decision" takes, as if there wouldn't be more urgency with trying to tie versus going up 3.
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as if there wouldn't be more urgency with trying to tie versus going up 3.

And with time for maybe one or two plays to get into field goal range.
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The issue remains that Seattle went 94 yards in roughly 90 seconds, including a 4th and 10 conversion.
Two 4th and 10 conversions. Two separate times.
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I'm also laughing at the "Well they didn't get the 2 point conversion, makes it an even stupider decision" takes, as if there wouldn't be more urgency with trying to tie versus going up 3.
Yeah, I've heard that multiple times too, and it's not even top 5 among bad takes this morning.

Look, at the end of the day, there's an ~80% chance you make that 4th and inches. There's a ~90% chance you make the kick.
  • The upside of you making the kick is that Wilson then has the ball at his own 25 with a minute left, and has to score and get a 2pt conversion and then beat you in Overtime. What are his chances of doing all of that? Maybe 20%? Maybe slightly higher, given that you're going into that overtime without Dalvin Cook and the Seahawks woke up in the second half?
  • The downside of the kicking option is that the game is over right there - you lose. And it's not impossible. It's rainy, it's a high pressure situation, the defense is motivated to get to your guy and block the kick, there's a non-zero chance of Blair Walsh the sequel. It's remote, but it's not zero.
  • The upside of the go-for-it option is that the game is over and Russell Wilson doesn't get to touch the ball.
  • The downside of the go-for-it option is that Russell Wilson gets the ball on his own five yard line with a minute left and has to go down the field and score a touchdown. What are his odds of doing that? 30%?

So, to recap, you have a kicking option that has a 90% chance of success and if successful gives you an 75-80% chance of victory, whereas if it fails it gives you a 0% chance of victory. Then you have a go-for-it option that has an 80% chance of success and if successful gives you a 100% chance of victory, whereas if it fails you still have a 70% chance of victory.

The math here is pretty easy to do.
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Saints look bad should maybe try mixing some Taysom Hill plays in?
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:27 PM   #873
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Are the Chargers in the Saints huddle?
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Cue the classic Charger choke job.
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I thought Herbert would be another Oregon QB bust coming out, but he has looked awesome so far. Also, I imagine Herbert the Pervert will be the #1 fantasy team name next year.
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I thought Herbert would be another Oregon QB bust coming out, but he has looked awesome so far. Also, I imagine Herbert the Pervert will be the #1 fantasy team name next year.

I for sure thought he was going to be Jake Locker.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:47 PM   #877
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Saints look bad should maybe try mixing some Taysom Hill plays in?
He's been awful all year.

Been behind all game just got live...what Brees arm strength problem? Haha I'm in shock
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Ahh, that's the stone hands Malcolm Jenkins I remember from his original Saints days. He somehow morphed into someone who could hold onto INTs in Philly, I see he left that skill up there
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Haha P-Rob you suck
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Taysom Hill sighting finally. Scored too fast tho
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