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Ducay · 08-26-2018, 08:39 AM

Siding color & trim looks great. Next summer you can do the main house to match!

Fuzz · 08-26-2018, 08:46 AM

Thanks!, That's the plan! First I need to tear down a shed attached to the house and re-build it away from the house. So house siding might be 2 years away, but it's gotta happen, stupid old vinyl looks horrible.

puckedoff · 08-26-2018, 09:06 AM

Looking good man!

Fuzz · 08-29-2018, 07:46 AM

The best part about projects is buying new toys!

Gassed it up and it started on the first pull. Brappbrappbrappbrapbrapp!

Pile o' bricks arrived...well some of them anyway. Short about 70, I think...time to give them a call...

Hockeyguy15 · 08-29-2018, 07:49 AM

I always knew you were a few bricks short of a load.

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 08:23 AM

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So wait... Fuzz, what does the other side of that open onto? Because obviously we're in your lane looking at the garage door, but then the other side also looks like a lane or a road. Where the heck is this thing?

Also, let me know how you do the heat for it, I'm contemplating whether to heat mine.

I heat my garage with one of these:

I had to run a gas line to my detached garage. I dug the trench and a gas fitter did the rest. An electrician had to run electricity to it, and a furnace company had to install all the ducting and hook it up. I was able to hang it myself as it was pretty easy to do when the rafters were exposed before I finished things.

I can't really remember how much everything was, but nothing was crazy expensive, the heater works great and it's amazing to have a heated garage.

Fuzz · 08-29-2018, 08:28 AM

Did you run the ducting through the trusses, or exposed outside?

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 08:55 AM

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Did you run the ducting through the trusses, or exposed outside?

I think the ducting is really just the exhaust chimney that runs up through the rafters then pokes out the roof. Gas line is in the wall. The only thing you can really see from inside the garage is the Reznor unit.

I-Hate-Hulse · 08-29-2018, 09:01 AM

Code would not permit a b-vent through the side wall - had to go through the rafters and through the roof for unit. You'll need to pull a permit too.

I have something similar to the Reznor from Lennox and it's awesome. About the size of a large microwave oven and completely out of the way. Better than the Calcana radiant heaters in most residential garages due to the height limitations.

Didn't cost that much either - payback over electric heat was like 3.5 years. No brainer.

Fuzz · 08-29-2018, 09:05 AM

Do you need a permit for the ducting/install, or just the gas line connection?

I got a free house furnace I was going to put in, hoping to do most of it myself.

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Do you need a permit for the ducting/install, or just the gas line connection?

I got a free house furnace I was going to put in, hoping to do most of it myself.

Hmmm, gas line for sure, but I don't remember about the ducting. Sorry.

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Do you need a permit for the ducting/install, or just the gas line connection?

I got a free house furnace I was going to put in, hoping to do most of it myself.

I get why you'd want to use the free furnace, but you're giving up like 10 SF at least of floor space in what will be the most usable area (along a wall) of your garage. These ceiling units like I have and I-Hate-Hulse has are so awesome because the floor/wall underneath is completely usable. I got mine off Kijiji including all the ducting for super cheap. Even if you had to buy new it would be worth it to preserve the floor space underneath. Giving up so much space to save <$1000 after all this work you've put into the garage won't be a good trade off IMO.

puckedoff · 08-29-2018, 09:13 AM

I put a 'Hot Dawg' unit in mine (https://www.amazon.ca/Modine-HD45AS0.../dp/B0096MJ522) and was able to vent out the side. I think it takes more expensive exhaust pipe to meet code if you go out the sidewall, and you need to be a certain distance from property line most likely. IMO I would rather go out the wall than make holes in the roof but I'm sure there are pros/cons of each.

I had the gas line installed at the same time as the unit was hung, so they inspected both. Not sure you would need to have the unit inspected separately I guess that would be up to you. I think it is work you could do yourself, if you know the rules.

Ducay · 08-29-2018, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Do you need a permit for the ducting/install, or just the gas line connection?

I got a free house furnace I was going to put in, hoping to do most of it myself.

If things are still exposed you may just want to bite the bullet and get a purpose built unit like the Reznor.

You're going to all the trouble of running a line, ducting, electrical for this house furnace that may: fail soon, fail inspection, and is not designed for that use case. I'm sure it would work, but thinking of passing inspection with requirements around cold air returns, sizing, etc, just gets questionable.

A tonne of the costs will be the same between furnace and Reznor options, but this way you're not doing it twice (if it dies or doesnt pass inspection). Which could be really costly if you end up having to rip finishings out to run a gas/electrical/duct lines to the roof unit the second time.

Plus you'll free up floor space without a hunking furnace and duct lines on the shop floor.

I've got an older wall mounted unit (vents out at the top of wall like a sealed fireplace). But I'll be damned if a heated garage isn't the cats meow.

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 09:30 AM

Here's my furnace set-up:

Spoiler!

It would be lame if I couldn't have fit that last section of racking because a floor furnace was in the way.

Hockeyguy15 · 08-29-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sliver

Here's my furnace set-up:

Spoiler!

It would be lame if I couldn't have fit that last section of racking because a floor furnace was in the way.

Your floor is dirty.

Fuzz · 08-29-2018, 09:50 AM

I was going to suspend it about 4 or 5 feet up, and that space won't really be useful for much anyway. The furnace is only about 10 years old, but ya I do need to do some research on duct sizing and stuff. I'm not 100% in on this plan yet, so thanks for the thoughts on it. One nice thing about doing a proper furnace would be that I could run ducts to the back, which is where the workshop area is. The alternative is extending the gas pipe all the way back there.

Titan · 08-29-2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sliver

Here's my furnace set-up:

Spoiler!

It would be lame if I couldn't have fit that last section of racking because a floor furnace was in the way.

And I can't see the cat...

Sliver · 08-29-2018, 11:06 AM

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And I can't see the cat...

Hah, he only lasted a year. Another dud.

bob-loblaw · 08-29-2018, 11:51 AM

I'm building a new house so I'm going to try get a bunch of things done in the attached garage first.

- hot/cold hose bibs
- natural gas and a 220V circuit - I'd like a heater but not sure what kind to get so I'm hedging with both of these.
- the builder puts the light switch to the garage inside the house by the man door, and one at the far end by the garage door
- add another two lights with a switch inside the garage by the man door
- I assume there's a rough in for built-in vacuum but we need one regardless

Am I missing anything important?

I wanted a floor drain in the garage of my current house but the builder said they couldn't because the city doesn't allow it. They said it was a risk because someone could potentially dump oil or antifreeze down it. There's nothing stopping someone from from dropping it down the drain inside the house instead though.

Thanks for your help CP!