06-24-2018, 01:04 PM
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Noah Hanifin: Over/Under 36.5 points for 2018/19
Similar to Lindholm thread
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Really stoked to have the scintillating skating Hanifin on board!
Noah obviously looks set to play with Travis Hamonic. While on the surface, Hamilton's departure looks to have weakened Flames D overall, I'd argue that Brodie's play will be elevated by Gio and Hamonics's play elevated by Hanifin. Lindholm also has really good defensive acumen, so the Flames may be actually better defensively on the whole
That being said, what are you expecting for offensive production out of Hanifin?
I'll set the over/under at 36.5 points and let the debate go from there.
His best year historically was a 33 point pace, coming last year where he scored 32 points in 79 games (0.4 PPG)
Bonus question: over under 11.5 goals? (10 goals last year, 9 ES, just 1 on PP)
Note: in his 3rd NHL campaign his ATOI went from ~18 min/gm for 1st 2 seasons up to ~19 min per gm last season.
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06-24-2018, 01:05 PM
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First round-bust
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Thanked for "scintillating skating".
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06-24-2018, 01:05 PM
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Location: Calgary
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40. and his +/- will head north towards zero with some goaltending hes never had the chance to play in front of.
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06-24-2018, 01:15 PM
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Has put in his first 3 'learning' years in the league. With a team that sucked the whole time. Is getting a new lease on life. Is now 21. Is joining his buddies Tkachuk and Gaudreau, which has him jacked.
I will predict a breakout season. 38-40 points.
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06-24-2018, 01:22 PM
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My only concern is I've heard a few comments about him being a "lots of tools, no tool box" player. Hopefully inaccurate as I haven't seen much of him myself.
Now we have two very talented LHD on board to hopefully play successor to Gio in a few years.
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06-24-2018, 01:51 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver
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Over!
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06-24-2018, 01:57 PM
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Under, but not by much. I see him with 35 points with some second unit PP minutes. Gio and Brodie will get most of the first unit.
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06-24-2018, 02:25 PM
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600 goals and 1300 assists.
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06-24-2018, 02:32 PM
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Under, but not vastly, and of course depending on if Peters is better at letting defensemen play offense than GG was and if he gets PP time. Klingberg led the league with 36 5v5 points last year, 1 ahead of Karlsson.
He had 23 5v5 points last year and I don't think he will get serious PP time behind Gio and Brodie.
Of course, everyone will then call him a bust and try to run him out of town, and the chirps from up north will be relentless.
Probably expect right around 32-35 points all things considered. I care more that he has a positive +/- and solid fancies than how much he scores with the way he will be deployed.
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06-24-2018, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
He had 23 5v5 points last year and I don't think he will get serious PP time behind Gio and Brodie.
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Brodie isn’t really great on the PP. Hanifin may indeed see more PP time as his shot is better while still being as good of a skater and passer. Andersson as well may be a better option than Brodie.
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06-24-2018, 03:28 PM
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Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
600 goals and 1300 assists.
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Those are Rob Schremp numbers.
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06-24-2018, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Probably 35 in 80.
9 goals 26 assists.
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06-24-2018, 09:11 PM
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I'll go with "under" again, but by a pretty small margin.
He might have a pace, but I'm assuming he misses some games. It'll be close IMO
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06-24-2018, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
600 goals and 1300 assists.
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Beaten to the punch.
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06-25-2018, 07:23 AM
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I'll say over, but only by 1 or 2 points. 37-38.
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06-25-2018, 07:50 AM
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First Line Centre
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Over if our PP actually clicks this year.
One thing we'll miss is Dougie put up a lot of points on the PP - That long stretch after February I think he was the only one doing so.
I'm still excited to add Hanifin however, I think the sky's the limit with this kid and I think a change of scenery to a hockey market that actually gives a #### will do wonders for the kid. He's still super young, our core age bracket is fantastic right now.
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06-25-2018, 08:23 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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37
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06-25-2018, 08:26 AM
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Location: Peterborough, ON
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If everything goes right, over (40 ish).
I'm expecting under though, as this is the Flames after all, so... ya know..
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06-25-2018, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Over if our PP actually clicks this year.
One thing we'll miss is Dougie put up a lot of points on the PP - That long stretch after February I think he was the only one doing so.
I'm still excited to add Hanifin however, I think the sky's the limit with this kid and I think a change of scenery to a hockey market that actually gives a #### will do wonders for the kid. He's still super young, our core age bracket is fantastic right now.
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Not nearly enough points on the PP. 
In any event, Hamilton was kind of playing the role of RS/RW on the one defenceman power play that most teams use. I'm hoping Lindholm or another RW can fill that role and contribute. I suppose Stone could work on accuracy and play RW shooter.
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06-25-2018, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I'm going to take the over and place him around 38 points - 30 at ES and 8 PP.
Just natural progression based on his first 3 seasons in the league so far.
15/16: 15 ES, 7 PP
16/17: 18 ES, 11 PP
17/18: 25 ES, 7 PP
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