11-21-2020, 07:27 PM
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#4441
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Perhaps it’s more fit on the line as opposed to “good defensively”. Because there’s different aspects to good defence. Once set up in their own zone, Tkachuk is perfectly fine defensively. I’m not sure he’s the guy to make up for Monahan’s lack of speed on a backcheck (frankly I think Monahan is decent enough defensively once they are back in formation) or Gaudreau’s overall defensive game. I think they need someone with a bit more speed and maybe who plays defence more like a centre (like Lindholm).
So it’s not so much that Tkachuk isn’t a very good 2 way guy or even that he isn’t good defensively (I accept I am wrong there according to stats). I just don’t like the thought of him playing the Lindholm role. Especially from the RW.
Of course I thought Backlund could play the Lindholm role and I was way off.
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Don't disagree with any of that.
Lindholm can anchor a line defensively, Tkachuk [probably] can't.
Tkachuk can anchor a line offensively, Lindholm [probably] can't.
When evaluating a 2-way forward, I think offense should be weighed a bit more heavily, hence my preference for MT.
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11-21-2020, 08:01 PM
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#4442
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
True, but the last few pages have actually had some pretty good quality hockey discussions.
Not bad for the middle of the offseason.
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Yeah, I don't understand when people whine about an excellent discussion that likely wouldn't have otherwise come up, in a thread that clearly doesn't have any real activity...or else it would have been posted.
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11-22-2020, 08:36 AM
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#4443
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Fair enough, though a bit overstated. I still think Dube is great defensively.
That was a lot of work over a fairly tepid debate.
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It was like ten sentences, wouldn't exactly call that "work." besides I think when someone is literally shown facts over and over again and still refuses to believe them, it needs to be called out.
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11-22-2020, 05:46 PM
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#4444
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigErnSalute_16
It was like ten sentences, wouldn't exactly call that "work." besides I think when someone is literally shown facts over and over again and still refuses to believe them, it needs to be called out.
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LOL. Refuses to believe them? Nah. But go on...
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11-23-2020, 03:27 PM
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#4445
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First Line Centre
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With DeBrusk re-signed in Boston (2 × $3.675M), I would guess any possibility of the CGY/BOS talk including DeBrusk is off the table considering Treliving likes to get RFA work done himself
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11-24-2020, 04:58 AM
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#4446
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Man, I'm so out of the loop on Debrusk. Maybe because I listened to sportsnet anchors gushing over him so much due to the Louie Debrusk connection. I was under the impression he was a budding star forward, but that contract suggests he's not.
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11-24-2020, 05:37 AM
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#4447
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Man, I'm so out of the loop on Debrusk. Maybe because I listened to sportsnet anchors gushing over him so much due to the Louie Debrusk connection. I was under the impression he was a budding star forward, but that contract suggests he's not.
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That's the amount per year, not for both.
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11-24-2020, 09:49 AM
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#4448
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Man, I'm so out of the loop on Debrusk. Maybe because I listened to sportsnet anchors gushing over him so much due to the Louie Debrusk connection. I was under the impression he was a budding star forward, but that contract suggests he's not.
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He can put up 20-25 goals and 50-55 pts per year consistently. That is probably his peak though.
Comparable is David Perron.
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11-24-2020, 10:04 AM
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#4449
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#1 Goaltender
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2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Man, I'm so out of the loop on Debrusk. Maybe because I listened to sportsnet anchors gushing over him so much due to the Louie Debrusk connection. I was under the impression he was a budding star forward, but that contract suggests he's not.
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He’s a good player, but I don’t think he’s a budding superstar. A complimentary player to have in your top 6.
He’s kind of like Mangiapane except he plays top pp. Mangiapane actually outscored him at even strength last year.
Last edited by bax; 11-24-2020 at 11:37 AM.
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11-24-2020, 10:08 AM
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#4450
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knut
He can put up 20-25 goals and 50-55 pts per year consistently. That is probably his peak though.
Comparable is David Perron.
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His career high is 43 points.
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11-24-2020, 10:55 AM
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#4451
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Man, I'm so out of the loop on Debrusk. Maybe because I listened to sportsnet anchors gushing over him so much due to the Louie Debrusk connection. I was under the impression he was a budding star forward, but that contract suggests he's not.
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Combination of that plus sort of amazement that he scores at all given the bloodlines.
Plus he’s a guy that gives a lot of effort so fans like him.
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11-24-2020, 11:59 AM
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#4452
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knut
He can put up 20-25 goals and 50-55 pts per year consistently. That is probably his peak though.
Comparable is David Perron.
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... What? I don't see this comparison at all. Perron has always had the slickest hands possible. Debrusk is all about jam and energy. Debrusk is similar to Max Domi imo.
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11-26-2020, 09:41 AM
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#4453
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Anyone else getting really, really bored of this lack of hockey in our lives? Yuck.
Still thinking we could trade Hanifin and come out ahead. Hanifin for Lias Andersson and Rasmus Kupari, then go ahead and sign Granlund to a cheap deal with the leftover space.
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11-26-2020, 10:20 AM
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#4454
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Didn't the Kings just trade for Andersson though? He's not a guy I'd target anyway.
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11-26-2020, 10:22 AM
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#4455
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Franchise Player
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Yeah the only way I trade Hanifin is for a significant upgrade up front - and neither Kupair and Andersson do that. Nor does Granlund - who is a extremely skilled but flawed player.
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11-26-2020, 10:56 AM
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#4456
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Uncle Chester
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I think Hanifin could be setting up for a nice year if he's played along side Tanev. Let Hanifin jump up a little more while Tanev cleans up any messes.
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11-26-2020, 12:31 PM
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#4457
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Yeah the only way I trade Hanifin is for a significant upgrade up front - and neither Kupair and Andersson do that. Nor does Granlund - who is a extremely skilled but flawed player.
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Fans here would turn on Granlund fast.
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11-26-2020, 02:08 PM
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#4458
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Anyone else getting really, really bored of this lack of hockey in our lives? Yuck.
Still thinking we could trade Hanifin and come out ahead. Hanifin for Lias Andersson and Rasmus Kupari, then go ahead and sign Granlund to a cheap deal with the leftover space.
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Barf
Lias Andersson was just moved for only a third and has only regressed since being high touted in the draft.
Kupari has dissapointed as a first and his stats have been pretty underwhelming since his draft.
Kings have lots of good pieces but those two would be pretty low on my list. Clague, Turcotte, Vilardi, or Kaliyev would all be much better targets than those two (Byfield is untouchable of course).
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11-26-2020, 02:17 PM
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#4459
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Lias Andersson is woefully out of his depth as a NHL hockey player. He has no future there.
Last edited by Karl; 11-26-2020 at 02:23 PM.
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11-26-2020, 05:36 PM
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#4460
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky
I think Hanifin could be setting up for a nice year if he's played along side Tanev. Let Hanifin jump up a little more while Tanev cleans up any messes.
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Because that worked so well when he was paired with Hamonic...
But yes, I believe Tanev is a better player but I really enjoyed what I saw of Andersson Hanifin in the playoffs and think Gio Tanev will work well.
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