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Old 09-10-2021, 12:45 PM   #41
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You have Zadorov and Val on the wrong sides, but yeah, probably.

I'll say one thing. It's a huge D. Kylington is the only small guy at 6'0" 183lb. Mackey is 6'2" 183. Tanev 6'2" 197. Everyone else is above 6'2" and 210 lbs. Well above in a bunch of cases.
Thought I read somewhere that Valimaki could play RD, I'm not sure.

Whether it's Zadorov-Gudbranson or Zadorov-Valimaki, either one would be a gamble. I just hope Sutter can make Gudbranson look decent the same way he made Stone look decent last season.

Anyways we have 9 NHL defensemen right now, something else has to be coming.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:47 PM   #42
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Thought I read somewhere that Valimaki could play RD, I'm not sure.
You're thinking of Kylington, who plays LD but prefers right.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:48 PM   #43
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Something else has to be happening.. waaaay too many D
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:50 PM   #44
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I love me an angry face puncher, y'all know me... but even I'm a little bewildered. Even if this is a Darryl move the numbers game doesn't make sense...
Seems like a trade of a defenseman for a forward is on the boil. The issue is that I assume it would mean one of the good defensemen on the roster is getting traded.
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The only way this makes sense if Andersson and Monahan are both going to Buffalo. How many #6 dmen does a team actually need?
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:51 PM   #46
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Oilers put together a mediocre d-core.

Flames - “hold my beer”
Disagree entirely - our D core is far stronger than theirs. Not sexy, by any stretch. And lacks a big offensive, PP guy. But it is solid defensively.

The Oilers' D is god####ingawful
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Why Stone & Gudbranson. What the heck is he doing????
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:53 PM   #48
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Seems like a trade of a defenseman for a forward is on the boil. The issue is that I assume it would mean one of the good defensemen on the roster is getting traded.

Agreed. I think it means at least one of Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington, or (unlikely) Hanifin will be on the move.


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Why Stone & Gudbranson. What the heck is he doing????
Stone makes lots of sense: lives here, cheap, no learning curve, can sit in the press box and come in with no issue, dependable. Can be buryed if cap is an issue.

Gudbrandson makes no sense unless there's a move.
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I like the signing - Stone was fantastic under Sutter last year. Also, someone mentioned a couple days ago that the Oilers might sign him, which concerned me greatly, as they desperately need a player like him. So it's a win and a win.

And when they signed Gudranson, I figured that meant no Stone, which was a bit disappointing. Now this makes the Gud signing a little bizarre, to say the least.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:55 PM   #51
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Seems like a trade of a defenseman for a forward is on the boil. The issue is that I assume it would mean one of the good defensemen on the roster is getting traded.
Nah, Gudbranson for Boeser. Let's go Dim Jim lol
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:55 PM   #52
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Stone was great last year and clearly wants to be here. I like the signing
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Agreed. I think it means at least one of Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington, or (unlikely) Hanifin will be on the move.


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He's picked up all RDs. So Andersson or Kylington (who slots in on the right sometimes). I suppose he could move Tanev but that would be stupid.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:56 PM   #54
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Something else has to be happening.. waaaay too many D
Except, not really.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangi-Monahan-Coleman
Pitlick-Backlund-Dube
Lucic-Richardson-Lewis
x: Ritchie, Gawdin

Hanifin-Tanev
Zadorov-Andersson
Valimaki-Gudbranson
x: Stone

Markstrom
Vladar

$1 million cap space remaining. Kylington either goes on waivers, or stays up in place of Gawdin and the Flames run 13F 8D.

Welcome to your 2021-22 Calgary Flames, my dude. You're gonna have a bad time.

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Old 09-10-2021, 12:56 PM   #55
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What if it were Valimaki & Andersson being moved?
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Tre ....Tre...Tre...WTF????
Can't we just .....ummm.... back away from the crack pipe bud.
Wow. Schizophrenia GM gonna do what Schizophrenia GM gonna do.
My brain is fried trying to figure out these cluster!@#$ moves.
Is something big gonna happen here? Don't leave me hanging bro
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:59 PM   #57
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There's gotta be a major move coming. If this is how they start the season, I won't be tuning in.
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:01 PM   #58
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Part of something bigger? Stone, GUDBRANSON, Lucic and a 1st for Eichel? Works from
A salary cap perspective. If I’m Brad Treliving, I’m picking up the phone now to Buffalo.
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We are fully capped out now too I believe.
22 man roster with Kylington and Mackey in Stockton to start:
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FORWARDS (13)
Matthew Tkachuk		$7,000,000
Johnny Gaudreau		$6,750,000
Sean Monahan		$6,375,000
Mikael Backlund		$5,350,000
Milan Lucic		$5,250,000
Blake Coleman		$4,900,000
Elias Lindholm		$4,850,000
Andrew Mangiapane	$2,425,000
Dillon Dubé		$2,300,000
Tyler Pitlick		$1,750,000
Brett Ritchie		  $900,000
Trevor Lewis		  $800,000
Brad Richardson		  $800,000

DEFENCE (7)
Noah Hanifin		$4,950,000
Rasmus Andersson	$4,550,000
Christopher Tanev	$4,500,000
Nikita Zadorov		$3,750,000
Erik Gudbranson		$1,950,000
Juuso Välimäki		$1,550,000
Michael Stone		  $750,000

GOALIES (2)
Jacob Markström		$6,000,000
Daniel Vladar		  $750,000

BUYOUT			$1,500,000

TOTAL:			$79,700,000

CAP SPACE:		$1,800,000
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22 man roster with Kylington and Mackey in Stockton to start:
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FORWARDS (13)
Matthew Tkachuk$7,000,000
Johnny Gaudreau$6,750,000
Sean Monahan$6,375,000
Mikael Backlund$5,350,000
Milan Lucic$5,250,000
Blake Coleman$4,900,000
Elias Lindholm$4,850,000
Andrew Mangiapane$2,425,000
Dillon Dubé$2,300,000
Tyler Pitlick$1,750,000
Brett Ritchie  $900,000
Trevor Lewis  $800,000
Brad Richardson  $800,000

DEFENCE (7)
Noah Hanifin$4,950,000
Rasmus Andersson$4,550,000
Christopher Tanev$4,500,000
Nikita Zadorov$3,750,000
Erik Gudbranson$1,950,000
Juuso Välimäki$1,550,000
Michael Stone  $750,000

GOALIES (2)
Jacob Markström$6,000,000
Daniel Vladar  $750,000

BUYOUT$1,500,000

TOTAL:$79,700,000

CAP SPACE:$1,800,000

I guess that makes sense. If the flames don’t intend on having either of them make the team out of camp, it could be no more moves are on the way as both of them could be sent to the farm team.


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