09-10-2021, 10:30 AM
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The sequels were on TV not long ago and so I caught bits and pieces of them and what I noticed fairly quickly was that they were terribly bad.
The dialogue alone was brutal.
What do I have to do?
You know what you have to do!
Where do I have to go?
You know where you have to go!
*Checks watch...are we seriously doing this?*
The dialogue was brutal. The pacing was terrible and on top of a non-sensical story that effectively was banking on people thinking they didnt understand it.
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09-10-2021, 10:52 AM
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I liked the sequels  |
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09-10-2021, 11:25 AM
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I liked the sequels |
The sequels actually had a fair number of cool ideas in them. The execution and pacing was just so awful at points. The films also suffered from being overly ambitious with their effects. CGI, at that point, just wasn't up to what they wanted to do.
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09-10-2021, 11:32 AM
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There were sequels?
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09-10-2021, 03:11 PM
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Although I am intrigued, this movie has about a 2% chance of being any good. Has there ever been a follow-up movie made 20 years post original that was any good? Sequels are usually disappointing as is, but long-awaited ones are worse.
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09-10-2021, 03:22 PM
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Have you seen the latest Bill & Ted? Don't get me wrong, I'm a bridge troll compared to Keanu, but he does not look good without a beard anymore.
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It kind of reminds me a little of Weird Al transformation post-Bob Ross hair and Lasik.
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09-10-2021, 03:29 PM
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Although I am intrigued, this movie has about a 2% chance of being any good. Has there ever been a follow-up movie made 20 years post original that was any good? Sequels are usually disappointing as is, but long-awaited ones are worse.
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Not that I think the Matrix will be good, but Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic, even better than the original IMO
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09-10-2021, 04:02 PM
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Not that I think the Matrix will be good, but Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic, even better than the original IMO
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That was a beautiful film.
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09-10-2021, 06:47 PM
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I'm old now so movies like BR2049 really, really appeal to me.
I've watched it at least four times.
I can't even tell you how many times I've watched the original BR. It's probably my most watched movie.
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09-10-2021, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pseudoreality
Although I am intrigued, this movie has about a 2% chance of being any good. Has there ever been a follow-up movie made 20 years post original that was any good? Sequels are usually disappointing as is, but long-awaited ones are worse.
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Not that I think the Matrix will be good, but Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic, even better than the original IMO
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Mad Max: Fury Road also applies. It was head and shoulders better than the original movies, though largely since those movies didn’t age well, it’s not like they were crappy to begin with.
The list of quality remakes, reboots and decades later sequels is super short. Especially if we remove remakes of golden age of Hollywood movies.
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09-10-2021, 09:06 PM
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The fighting is going to have massive upgrades over the sequels. Only due to how much technology has advanced since then. And that the Matrix movies themselves were the bar setters for the filming and CG technology back then.
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The most iconic effect aka bullet time was mostly a practical effect (many cameras) mixed with CG elements. Not sure I'd consider The Matrix a ground breaking film for visual effects what made it special was the combination of practical and CGI.
The actors doing their own stunts as much as possible made a huge difference if that is replaced by computer generated stunts then ugh.
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09-10-2021, 09:09 PM
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Mad Max: Fury Road also applies. It was head and shoulders better than the original movies, though largely since those movies didn’t age well, it’s not like they were crappy to begin with.
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09-10-2021, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Mad Max: Fury Road also applies. It was head and shoulders better than the original movies, though largely since those movies didn’t age well, it’s not like they were crappy to begin with.
The list of quality remakes, reboots and decades later sequels is super short. Especially if we remove remakes of golden age of Hollywood movies.
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I'm going to catch flak for this, but I don't understand the fawning over Mad Max: Fury Road. Excellent cinematography, and that's about it.
It was just...weird. I've never watched the originals, so maybe it was the fact it was nostalgia and a mastery of the original concept?
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09-10-2021, 09:17 PM
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Fury Road sucks the story is terrible, if you can call it that. Some awesome stunts but low IQ film in general.
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09-10-2021, 09:52 PM
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Fury Road sucks the story is terrible, if you can call it that. Some awesome stunts but low IQ film in general.
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A guy playing a guitar on a vehicle that shoots fire is visually cool...but, why is it even there?
Weird.
The villain is the most fragile person in the world with half a skull, but a harem. Why? What?
Weird.
Having people hooked to other people as blood bags. What? Why?
Weird. For the sake of weird, on a blockbuster budget. I don't get it.
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09-10-2021, 11:38 PM
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I liked the sequels |
Matrix 1 is a modern masterpiece.
Matrix 2 and 3 are fun escapist action adventure films with a solid cast. Not at the level of the first, but easily better than most sequels to classic movies.
The more I learn about the details of the Matrix universe through the trilogy as well as the animatrix and games, the more interesting it becomes.
And 18 years later there is certainly an appetite to revisit it. I just hope they don't rehash the previous movies in a greatest hits fashion and tell a new story or an intriguing continuation of the original story with callbacks sprinkled in along the way. Branching out and adding stories to this universe is what it needs and deserves.
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09-10-2021, 11:40 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Fury Road sucks the story is terrible, if you can call it that. Some awesome stunts but low IQ film in general.
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Not every story has to be "high" IQ.
Some stories are made for that. Especially when it's a 2 hour car chase. I mean, how complex do you want to make that?
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09-10-2021, 11:47 PM
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IQ comes into play with Fury Road when you use it to determine that you're watching a purposefully over the top action movie and not Citizen Kane.
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09-10-2021, 11:48 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Not that I think the Matrix will be good, but Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic, even better than the original IMO
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It's astonishingly good for a present day sci-fi film. And equally painfully underappreciated.
Rarely are movies these days made with the level of detail, love and execution as BR2049 was.
I get literal chills from scenes in that film, between the visuals and script. Pretty sure nothing made in the last decade elicits that reaction from me.
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