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Old 06-13-2021, 09:38 PM   #461
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Just an FYI, alot of the items at openbox are Costco refurbs/returns.
Yep, a company I worked for used to have the contract for Costco return electronics. It's an amazing contract if you can score it, although Costco wised up and kept upping the percentage on high end electronics.

For a few years there we were acquiring all their high end TV's/computers/home theatre at .20 on the dollar , with 85% of it being sellable without repair, it was crazy. They slowly started upping the price each year though and other companies kept offering more and more.

I remember it going from .20 to .25 to .30 to 45 in one year and then somebody else took the contract when we backed out.
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Old 06-13-2021, 09:41 PM   #462
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Someone returns $2000 TV in perfect condition to costco after using it for Super Bowl? Came into us at $400 the next Thursday, sell it for $1500. What a wild ride, but we knew it wouldn't last.

Obviously you're not locking in any contracts to significant time with a big boy like Costco.
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Does anyone have experience with 4-series TCL TVs ?

I have a kids playroom I want to outfit with a TV, and it doesn’t need to be high end. I like the easy interface of the TCL since I had a 6-series, so I’m asking about the lower end model. Is the functionality the same, with just slightly lower picture quality? It’ll be used exclusively for Disney+, Netflix and YouTube. Looking for no larger than 50”, and the price point of TCL is attractive.

Also open to other suggestions.
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Does anyone have experience with 4-series TCL TVs ?

I have a kids playroom I want to outfit with a TV, and it doesn’t need to be high end. I like the easy interface of the TCL since I had a 6-series, so I’m asking about the lower end model. Is the functionality the same, with just slightly lower picture quality? It’ll be used exclusively for Disney+, Netflix and YouTube. Looking for no larger than 50”, and the price point of TCL is attractive.

Also open to other suggestions.
Buy it. My MIL has the 4-series in her office and it's a fantastic television, you can't beat the value for money. Then she bought the 5-series for her bedroom and it is even better. I'm thoroughly impressed with TCL's offerings.
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Buy it. My MIL has the 4-series in her office and it's a fantastic television, you can't beat the value for money. Then she bought the 5-series for her bedroom and it is even better. I'm thoroughly impressed with TCL's offerings.

Thank you.

I am mostly concerned with the interface.

Is it the same as 6-series? I just want it to be easy for my wife to set up shows and movies for the kids, and she is familiar with the 6-series.
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If you got the Roku version and not the Android TV version they appear to also be offering now, then they’re identical. A Roku TV is a Roku TV is a Roku TV.
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Kinda feel like I owe you a consulting fee for all this technical advice you give me.

Of course I won’t pay you one, but you do have my thanks.
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Trying to think of the proper sentence here.

"Once you go OLED, you never go back?"

Great TV's, even better for gaming.

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So yet again, MIL replaces another TV… with a TCL. This time, replacing a 60” Sony Bravia XBR-60LX900 3D TV with the TCL 6-series 65” QLED. Unreal value, and stellar picture. It’s really hard to argue against TCL unless you are really focused on specific specs/features.

The Sony probably had a whopping 200 hours of use on it since 2010, and it’s still a really impressive set today.
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So yet again, MIL replaces another TV… with a TCL. This time, replacing a 60” Sony Bravia XBR-60LX900 3D TV with the TCL 6-series 65” QLED. Unreal value, and stellar picture. It’s really hard to argue against TCL unless you are really focused on specific specs/features.

The Sony probably had a whopping 200 hours of use on it since 2010, and it’s still a really impressive set today.
I debated between TCL and Hisense for a cheap 55" TV with 120hz/Freesync and VRR. Ended up with the Hisense 55U78G for $999 and I have to say so far it looks and feels amazing for movies and PS5. I really want to go to a store and see the difference in picture between the cheap tv's and the expensive ones because I can't imagine it being that much better. If it holds up well I will be replacing my 70" with the same TV above but 75".
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I got my dad a Hisense H9 65". The only issue is with all the "smart TV" stuff. They get really annoyed with it because sometimes the mic picks up what the TV is saying and switches to movies, and they can't figure out what remote to use or what button to push to switch it back. I ended up just turning off the mic (which probably was spying on them anyway).
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I debated between TCL and Hisense for a cheap 55" TV with 120hz/Freesync and VRR. Ended up with the Hisense 55U78G for $999 and I have to say so far it looks and feels amazing for movies and PS5. I really want to go to a store and see the difference in picture between the cheap tv's and the expensive ones because I can't imagine it being that much better. If it holds up well I will be replacing my 70" with the same TV above but 75".
I've got a Hisense LCD and a more expensive Sony X900H. For 4K content the picture quality is pretty similar, but beyond that the Sony is way ahead. 4K upscaling is pretty bad on the Hisense, if I'm watching a 1080p movie on it there are lots of artifacts visible and the lighting sucks. Whereas on the Sony the upscaling is so good it's sometimes hard to tell between a 1080 and 4K signal. Also browsing the Android TV menu on the Hisense can be annoying at times with lag, but the Sony has a much more powerful processor so it's always smooth. The Sony also has much better built-in speakers, which I've definitely noticed as I don't have room in the budget yet for a home theater setup

My advise is that if you want a minimal setup with just a TV mounted to a wall, go for the more expensive option. But if you're going to have a soundbar and a Nvidia Shield for streaming then the Hisense or TCL make a lot of sense
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Just recently made the switch to OLED with the LG CX. Can’t say enough good things about it so far.
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Well, my Panasonic plasma unfortunately took a hit from a mini-hockey stick at the hand of my 2 year old, so I now have a line of pixels across the entire TV out. Boo. I haven't fully accepted that I'll have to replace it, but starting to look around. It still works fine, but the line is annoying.
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Tsuu T'ina Costco has LG 55CX OLED tv's on clearout for $1550. Regular $1998. They had two left after I bought one this morning.
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Is 55" OLED really worth it, though? I was under the impression you had to be 65/75 to really get the experience of OLED.
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No, that's 4k. Any given size of OLED will look better than the same size of a non-OLED TV. It's mainly about contrast.
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Well, my Panasonic plasma unfortunately took a hit from a mini-hockey stick at the hand of my 2 year old, so I now have a line of pixels across the entire TV out. Boo. I haven't fully accepted that I'll have to replace it, but starting to look around. It still works fine, but the line is annoying.
TV is doing the red blink of death. I've tried a few things to resuscitate it, but no luck as of yet. Starting to look at options a little more eagerly now, since it's our only TV.

The plasma was a 50 inch with a large bezel, so is it safe to say if I go 55inch the overall TV size should be about the same, since bezels are so small these days? And if I had to guess, our viewing distance from the TV to couch is about 7 feet. I don't want to feel like the TV is overpowering the room. Might stick to 48-50inch.
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You're going too small, in my opinion. You want the TV to fill as close to 40 degrees of your field of vision as possible (cinema). The recommended cinema viewing distance on RTINGS for a 65" is 6.5 feet. 7 feet is also right in the sweet spot for UHD benefit on a 65", while it's right on the edge for a 55".
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