View Poll Results: Should Don Cherry have been fired?
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11-11-2019, 01:55 PM
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#381
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Well, it's not hypocrisy if it's completely different groups responsible for these outcomes, is it?
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He's got a point. It's a fact that a large portion of Canadians voted in the Black Face PM (that also grabs female buts when he's under the impression that they are just pretty faces not working in the media) which does not reflect well on the nation. It's also a fact that a large portion of Canadians were upset and with Cherry's comments and wanted him disciplined. While I don't feel that reflects negatively on the nation we do really have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves what exactly we are standing for as this nonsense of picking and choosing what is offensive and what no based on how it suits our narratives is not cool. There is little doubt that a large portion of Canadians are major hypocrites which is unfortunate.
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11-11-2019, 01:56 PM
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#382
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Well, it's not hypocrisy if it's completely different groups responsible for these outcomes, is it?
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And if by society you mean most likely Budweiser Canada, the top sponsor of hockey in this country.
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11-11-2019, 01:57 PM
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#383
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Franchise Player
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Don Cherry hasn't said anything useful or insightful in well over a decade. As for him being fired for that rant in particular, it would be surprising if it weren't, like, the tenth time he's said something similar.
I'm surprised he didn't walk it back, though - it would have been pretty easy to say he didn't mean immigrants. He didn't say immigrants directly. He could have cast it as, "no, when I say "you people", I'm talking about everyone in the country, and saying if you enjoy our way of life here, the least you can do is pay tribute to the men and women whose sacrifice allowed you to enjoy it", or something like that. But to essentially just give a "no comment, I've had my say" is obviously going to be interpreted as "yes, you understood me correctly, and I stand by my statements"... and yeah, given his history, this being the straw that breaks the camel's back and gets him fired isn't the least bit surprising.
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11-11-2019, 01:57 PM
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#384
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Scorch
Rogers/Sportsnet knew exactly when they would fire Cherry
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Yup, no doubt about that.
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11-11-2019, 01:58 PM
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#385
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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But he did mean immigrants.
So hes not going to walk out back.
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11-11-2019, 02:01 PM
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#386
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Franchise Player
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Could he have said, "look I have noticed a good number of new Canadians are not wearing poppies and that concerns me..."? I suppose not.
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11-11-2019, 02:03 PM
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#387
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Norm!
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Its kind of a sad way to see him go. What he said was definitely wrong, and he had a chance to walk it back, but I don't think his pride would let him, and at this time in his life, he's not going to "bend the knee for anyone".
The guy has been a passionate supporter of the police and the armed forces, and he's done a ton of charity work, but he's going to be most remembered for this.
I doubt he needs the money, of gets too emotional about departing.
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11-11-2019, 02:03 PM
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#388
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Could he have said, "look I have noticed a good number of new Canadians are not wearing poppies and that concerns me..."? I suppose not.
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He could have said a good number of Canadians, period. He would have made a great point and still be on air next week.
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#389
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Could he have said, "look I have noticed a good number of new Canadians are not wearing poppies and that concerns me..."? I suppose not.
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Or how about I saw a lot of Canadians not wearing poppies and that concerns me.
This shouldn't have become an immigration issue at all, its not.
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#390
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
So they actually framed it as mutual, but it's clear he was fired.
Optically, I agree they should have waited a day. Even ignoring Cherry's reputation, this just simply does not need to be in the news on Remembrance Day. Can't help but wonder if that was a bit strategic. Or perhaps petty?
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“Further discussions”.
SN - We need you to apologize.
DC - No.
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#391
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Royal Oak
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Was Cherry due a bonus on the 12th or something? Surely SN could have waited until tomorrow to do the inevitable.
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#392
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Igottago
He could have said a good number of Canadians, period. He would have made a great point and still be on air next week.
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For sure, but as Girly noted that's not was he was getting at.
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11-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#393
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Again, how do you notice “new Canadians”? Are they wearing t-shirts saying, “proud new Canadian”?
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11-11-2019, 02:06 PM
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#394
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Lifetime Suspension
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later boomer
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11-11-2019, 02:06 PM
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#395
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Wormius
Again, how do you notice “new Canadians”? Are they wearing t-shirts saying, “proud new Canadian”?
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They look like Trudeau on Halloween, naturally.
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11-11-2019, 02:06 PM
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#396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Love
later boomer
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A little too old to be a boomer.
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11-11-2019, 02:07 PM
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#397
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
But he did mean immigrants. So hes not going to walk out back.
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Yes, apparently so. Which is not terribly surprising for Don. And similarly, it's therefore not at all surprising or objectionable that Rogers fired him for his comments.
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11-11-2019, 02:07 PM
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#398
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He's got a point. It's a fact that a large portion of Canadians voted in the Black Face PM (that also grabs female buts when he's under the impression that they are just pretty faces not working in the media) which does not reflect well on the nation. It's also a fact that a large portion of Canadians were upset and with Cherry's comments and wanted him disciplined. While I don't feel that reflects negatively on the nation we do really have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves what exactly we are standing for as this nonsense of picking and choosing what is offensive and what no based on how it suits our narratives is not cool. There is little doubt that a large portion of Canadians are major hypocrites which is unfortunate.
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Well, again, this is just sort of made up conjecture. What is “a large portion”? A large portion of Canadians voted in Trudeau? Alright, well the vast majority did not vote for him. Chris Brown was near the top of Billboard for Canadian album sales? That requires less than 10k album sales, that’s nobody. And again, a “large portion” Canadians wanted Cherry disciplines? The majority here did not want him fired, so how do you quantify this “large portion”?
This is just people tilting at windmills. People hating on other Canadians, calling them hypocrites, the CBC, Trudeau, etc. And ounce of critical thought, and it’s pretty clear people just having something to say and are using this to say it. How is that any better than the people you’re criticising? Now we’re dragging Canada? The country? Come on now.
One man past his expiry gets fired and suddenly Canada is at stake for some. Very bizarre.
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11-11-2019, 02:07 PM
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#399
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Franchise Player
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Agree 100% its not an immigration issue. And that's why Cherry is gone. He should have walked his comments back. But he refused so the intent of his comments are clear. Sportsnet had no choice but to distance themselves.
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11-11-2019, 02:08 PM
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#400
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First Line Centre
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No issues with the decision to dismiss him...should have waited until the 12th. His comments were inappropriate, but delaying to recognize how much he has done for getting veterans their deserved recognition justifies having a bit of class here by SN with the dismissal.
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