[News] 2020 Draft lottery Phase 1 results - a placeholder team has the 1st overall pick

[AC]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If the Flames lose to the Jets, and do not get the first overall pick, they do stand a better shot at getting Dawson Mercer, which would be a great consolation prize.

Flames top off a stunning Cup win by selecting at #31, the Calgary kid with the best name in the draft, RW Ozzy Wiesblatt.

[AustinL_NHL]

Just like what's happening in the MLB and NBA with players declining to participate in the start/resumption of their seasons, there's surely going to be players that opt out of the resumption of the NHL season, which will only further damage the validity of the Stanley Cup winner.

The worst thing that could happen is a significant player deciding not to play. Especially on a team that's a favorite to win

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I think that since 2000:

Senators - 10
Canadiens - 8
Canucks 7
Flames - 4
Oilers - 4
Maple Leafs - 4 (all early 2000s, with one run accounting for half - zero playoff round wins since 2003-04 lockout)
Jets - 2

Eugene Melnyk sucks, but the management of the Senators has been good - they just can't hold onto their good players for long periods of time. The biggest mistake that they have made was letting Chara go in favour of Redden.

I betcha Chara has been counting his lucky stars ever since.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If the Flames lose to the Jets, and do not get the first overall pick, they do stand a better shot at getting Dawson Mercer, which would be a great consolation prize.

I find it strange that we aren't talking more about this kid-skating, skill, hands,and a touch of power in his game. Kid's got it all. I would not be surprised to see him go top-10, but IMO he's better than most prospects that are mentioned here regularly, including Quinn, Gunler, Amirov, and Jarvis.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I find it strange that we aren't talking more about this kid-skating, skill, hands,and a touch of power in his game. Kid's got it all. I would not be surprised to see him go top-10, but IMO he's better than most prospects that are mentioned here regularly, including Quinn, Gunler, Amirov, and Jarvis.

Shhhhhh....

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I find it strange that we aren't talking more about this kid-skating, skill, hands,and a touch of power in his game. Kid's got it all. I would not be surprised to see him go top-10, but IMO he's better than most prospects that are mentioned here regularly, including Quinn, Gunler, Amirov, and Jarvis.

I have him pegged top 9 at lowest maybe 12 so I never really talked about him honestly because I didn't think thered be a chamce at him either way the coin flips for the Flames. I focused mainly on players in the range that the Flames would be picking i.e 16th. And even then just the ones I found personally interesting. Guys like Mercer, Perfetti, Rossi, Holtz and Raymond just were too high up to consider.

[Textcritic]

Mercer went #13 in the CPHL Draft this weekend.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by AC

Flames top off a stunning Cup win by selecting at #31, the Calgary kid with the best name in the draft, RW Ozzy Wiesblatt.

Ozzy's got a great motor and superb offensive instincts.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Ozzy's got a great motor and superb offensive instincts.

That's just a bonus compared to the value of his name.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I have him pegged top 9 at lowest maybe 12 so I never really talked about him honestly because I didn't think thered be a chamce at him either way the coin flips for the Flames. I focused mainly on players in the range that the Flames would be picking i.e 16th. And even then just the ones I found personally interesting. Guys like Mercer, Perfetti, Rossi, Holtz and Raymond just were too high up to consider.

Yeah, that makes sense. I've seen him slip to the middle of the first round in a few mock drafts, but not for a while now-moreso earlier in the season.

[Mr.Coffee]

this is going to sound nuts but, for some reason, I have a sense that the Flames are going to go on an absolutely massive tear if they actually do this post-season thing. Like... finals or win it all kinda thing.

I have literally no reason to make this prediction either, but I could see it happening almost because it is just so unlikely and would be so ridiculous (so, you know, Flames). If Rittich plays at the top of his game and Johnny / Monny are feeling it... they are a great team. I dunno, that's the frustrating thing about Calgary it feels like they are either one of the absolute best or literally bottom 5 team. Zero consistency to this group.

[MrMike]

I’m with you Mr Coffee. Gut instinct on how this team has been and is ready.

And even if we are wrong, I’m happy I’m so optimistic than some people going into this. Hope is a building ground of why we are here guys.

Also, I feel like people forget how well we do in this post season may reflect on how much a player like Hall wants to sign with us.

[djsFlames]

No audience plus away games plus glut of nhl defensemen and a million question marks feels like the perfect storm for these guys to sneak in and do something crazy.

I think if they solve winnipeg early then they go on a deep run.

But all depends on if it even happens........

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

No audience plus away games plus glut of nhl defensemen and a million question marks feels like the perfect storm for these guys to sneak in and do something crazy.

I think if they solve winnipeg early then they go on a deep run.

But all depends on if it even happens........

Hey that's half the attitude we need around here!

It's going to happen, Rittich is going to show his worth as a starter. I am pumped.

[1991 Canadian]

The more I think about this, the more I'm leaning towards being okay with the Flames being in that play-in loser lottery.

Normally being in the playoff bubble / first round fodder section of the NHL standings is a frustrating place to be in. 0-3% odds of a Stanley Cup, 0-3% odds of a top 3 draft pick.

I don't think there were any Flames fans down the stretch saying "I'd rather have those 2 percent odds at a top 3 draft pick over playoff hockey". Because in all likelihood, theres a 98 percent chance we would get the 14th overall pick and no playoffs. A lose-lose.

This year is now different. 12.5% odds of the first overall pick is better than any of the play-in teams Stanley Cup odds.

To add to that, from a fan perspective, this Stanley Cup has a lot less value. Nobody's working downtown. No C of Red. A limited Red Mile. No fans booing Bettman. No Stanley Cup parade. From an achievement standpoint, there is no asterisk next to this years cup (in my opinion). There is a huge asterisk from a fan experience perspective.

[AC]

Originally Posted by 1991 Canadian

From an achievement standpoint, there is no asterisk next to this years cup (in my opinion). There is a huge asterisk from a fan experience perspective.

This is my one reservation.

I'm sure I would still go insane during a lengthy Flames playoff run, but there's no question for me; it would be hugely disappointing being unable to attend the home games.

[Monahammer]

It would be a very flames thing to do to go on a run to win it while we cant enjoy a proper red mile

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by AC

This is my one reservation.

I'm sure I would still go insane during a lengthy Flames playoff run, but there's no question for me; it would be hugely disappointing being unable to attend the home games.

Yea, that’s why I can’t into it, I am a STH and attend about 20-25 games. For TV games I just PVR them and watch them in an hour or so.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Exactly. 100%

On top of being even more difficult to win this year, the added fact that whoever wins won't enjoy it nearly as much or get nearly as much respect from other fanbases makes this a much easier thought process for me

Not sure if this has been pointed out, but that is fairly contradictory... How can something be more difficult to achieve than it previously has been but at the same time the achievement will be respected less? It is one or the other, the more difficult the achievement the more respect it earns you, and vice versa.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Exactly. 100%



On top of being even more difficult to win this year, the added fact that whoever wins won't enjoy it nearly as much or get nearly as much respect from other fanbases makes this a much easier thought process for me

Why do some of you think that winning the Stanley Cup will be more difficult this year?

Is it because of the play-in round? I would dispute that, since this five-game series serves as a replacement of a much more grueling 12-game grind down the stretch, with travel extended over a five-week period of time.

Is it because for the first time in living memory every team will enter the playoffs completely healthy and well rested? I guess that could make things more difficult for some teams, but leveling the playing field will also prove to make things easier for others. It just depends on the team.

I don't think I agree that winning the 2020 Stanley Cup will be any more difficult than it has ever been.

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