Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Well, if the Conservaties' goal is to ensure that they'll never win another election in this country ever again, they're certainly doing a bang-up job. What a bunch of f'n clowns.



https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...rgen-1.5962407

Anyone with higher than a Grade 6 education knows that even if you agree with the POS Freedumb truckers, you can't say it if you want to win to a national election.

I guess Deplorable Murphy Brown and her band of corky sherwood forests didn't even make it to junior high.

[CaptainCrunch]

More on the Halifax shooting inquiry, documents etc


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...o-nova-scotia/

The federal Justice department says it turned over a further 17 pages of RCMP investigative files on Friday to the public inquiry into the April 2020 mass killing of 22 people in Nova Scotia.
Department spokesman Ian McLeod said another three pages have been withheld as Justice lawyers determine if they should be disclosed to the Mass Casualty Commission [MCC], which is investigating the worst mass shooting in Canadian history.
“Three remaining pages are still being reviewed for any necessary redactions,” Mr. McLeod said in a statement to The Globe and Mail.


He said Justice lawyers had initially withheld 35 pages from the commission and handed over 12 documents on May 30. The package included four pages of notes from RCMP Superintendent Darren Campbell, outlining an April 28, 2020, conversation with the country’s top Mountie and her Nova Scotia commanders.
Those notes allege that RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki berated Supt. Campbell when he refused to prematurely release details on the type of weapons used in the shooting. She told her officers she had promised the “minister of public safety and the Prime Minister’s Office” to reveal what kind of firearms were used to build support for the Liberal government’s gun agenda.

Supt. Campbell is not the only member of the RCMP who has talked about pressure from Ottawa.
Lisa Scanlan, the RCMP’s former director of strategic communications in Halifax, told the investigation that federal officials, including Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Blair, “were weighing in on what we could and couldn’t say” during media briefings.
The transcript of her remarks was heavily redacted in some sections before its release, so some details of the testimony remain secret.
At another point, Ms. Scanlan talked about Commissioner Lucki’s conduct in an interview and attributes what happened to “political pressure,” adding “that is 100 per cent Minister Blair and the Prime Minister.”
She then told investigators: “We have a Commissioner that does not push back.”

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

More on the Halifax shooting inquiry, documents etc


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...o-nova-scotia/

The commissioner of the RCMP needs to be arms length from the government and situations such as these are exactly why. There should be an all party parliamentary panel to oversee the RCMP not the current set up where they are a deputy minister in the federal government.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Envitro

I would venture a guess it's standard procedure to not release any pertinent information to the number and type of murder weapons used since it could undermine investigations during the questioning on witnesses or potential suspects.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

What I heard mentioned on this topic was that releasing the weapon type could have compromised the investigation into how the shooter obtained the gun and where it came from.

Originally Posted by Azure

There are a lot of rumors that the shooter was an informant and perhaps had access to weapons. Releasing that info could potentially derail the investigation as to how he would have gotten that access, or even where the weapons came from.

Azure's response to this is a potential answer but even then.. I don't see what it matters. Its not like he was using some one of a kind gun that you can only get from a secret lair like some video game. These guns are everywhere.

Its a standard police answer and it does make sense if like Envitro says there are questions about who did it. But this was solved. The guy was dead. It doesn't matter if its released or not. Police in Canada give out way too little information under the guise of 'active investigation'

(and no - politicians shouldn't be telling them what information to release)

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

More on the Halifax PORTAPIQUE shooting inquiry, documents etc


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...o-nova-scotia/

I know there's no ill-will meant by calling it the "Halifax shooting inquiry" but it'd be like if I said that Claresholm was Calgary.

You're like... relatively close and all, but it's not the same.

[Northendzone]

There sure seem to be no shortage of odd allegations and behaviours around this horrible event

But, I am sure just like the issues in the Winnipeg lab, there is little to see here

[PostandIn]

Meanwhile, Canada fails to meet its global security obligations, again.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ding-benchmark

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

Meanwhile, Canada fails to meet its global security obligations, again.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ding-benchmark

####ing Canada. Can't even set out a plan to get to the bare minimum of their commitments. No wonder everyone on the world stage thinks we're a joke.

If there is ever a time the country would support as huge increase in defense/military spending, this is it.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

No wonder everyone on the world stage thinks we're a joke.

Sure lol. Along with Denmark, Czechia, Belgium and Germany right?

[timun]

"Fails to meet global security obligations" is really "didn't hit minimum defence spending target".

[Harry Lime]

It hits harder internationally because Canada was just called out for their $3.9B increase in spending on NORAD just being a shifting of already allocated funds.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

####ing Canada. Can't even set out a plan to get to the bare minimum of their commitments. No wonder everyone on the world stage thinks we're a joke.

If there is ever a time the country would support as huge increase in defense/military spending, this is it.

No. Its not.

We dont have any money.

Right now we see the cost of everyday living going through the roof and you think people would support us printing even more money for defence spending??

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

It hits harder internationally because Canada was just called out for their $3.9B increase in spending on NORAD just being a shifting of already allocated funds.

Who is calling Canada out?

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

Sure lol. Along with Denmark, Czechia, Belgium and Germany right?

Hahaha, because Canada being synonymous with setting low targets and consistently failing to meet them is sooo smirk worthy. Hahaha.

Look, we suck, but so does Chechnya, lol. And Belgium, lmao!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

Hahaha, because Canada being synonymous with setting low targets and consistently failing to meet them is sooo smirk worthy. Hahaha.

Look, we suck, but so does Chechnya, lol. And Belgium, lmao!

It kind of is.

It’s a pretty stupid, arbitrary target to care about.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Locke

No. Its not.

We dont have any money.

Right now we see the cost of everyday living going through the roof and you think people would support us printing even more money for defence spending??

If only we had an abundance of natural resources we could extract in an ethical manner…

Seriously, the amount of red tape the feds have put up against oil and gas is coming home to roost. We should’ve had numerous natural gas terminals by now, tmx should’ve been completed, energy east should be in progress…

Ughhhhh

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Who is calling Canada out?

I see there is a NATO meeting going on.. so I'm sure they are being called out there.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I see there is a NATO meeting going on.. so I'm sure they are being called out there.

Trudeau doesn’t care, it’s not like NATO is gonna throw us out or anything. Our PM’s just nod their heads, make new announcements while playing the shell game with defence funds. Just the way it is.

[CaptainCrunch]

An inquiry is happening around Blair and Lucki and the allegations of political pressure applied against an active police investigation.


On the Emergency Measures Inquiry, cabinet confidentiality is being waived.


I expect that the NDP will act as blockers on both limiting questions.


I also expect that our RCMP Commissioner will be JWR'd

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Locke

No. Its not.

We dont have any money.

Right now we see the cost of everyday living going through the roof and you think people would support us printing even more money for defence spending??

I don't care if we are the laughing stock of the world when it comes to defence spending.We'll just continue with sending in humanatairan aid and supplies.

There has to be a big perk for having the longest undefended border with a backwards 3rd world country